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[Radio Controlled]

I may make it so that civie only gains +5 instead then, to even it out.  I don't want anything to be overall better than anything else. Or I may just boost the engine heart bonus to +20.

If you go for the second one, maybe also rebalance the engineer class.

[Pancaek]

I may make it so that civie only gains +5 instead then, to even it out.  I don't want anything to be overall better than anything else. Or I may just boost the engine heart bonus to +20.

Why not have the engine heart get some kind of bonus to resisting deep sea magic, since it doesn't have a soul/whatever like everyone else does? +20 endure also sounds good. Because really, no way to get resurrected is a bit harsh, since it seems like a big deal in the game.

Don't nerf the civvie though.

-edit-: Also, what do engine hearts use to heal/repair?

[piecewise]

I may make it so that civie only gains +5 instead then, to even it out.  I don't want anything to be overall better than anything else. Or I may just boost the engine heart bonus to +20.

Why not have the engine heart get some kind of bonus to resisting deep sea magic, since it doesn't have a soul/whatever like everyone else does? +20 endure also sounds good. Because really, no way to get resurrected is a bit harsh, since it seems like a big deal in the game.

Don't nerf the civvie though.

-edit-: Also, what do engine hearts use to heal/repair?

They'd heal via recover as usual and then using build with repair kits or tool kits instead of med kits and the like.




I'm gonna make it so that the engineheart doesn't have any higher resist, but is immune to being fiddled with by people in the Deep Sea. Which is pretty powerful. In ER thats like being immune to Manips.

[Pancaek]

I'm gonna make it so that the engineheart doesn't have any higher resist, but is immune to being fiddled with by people in the Deep Sea. Which is pretty powerful. In ER thats like being immune to Manips.

Going once, going twice, sold to the man with the misspelled dessert for a name.

[Radio Controlled]

Gonna repost this, seems important enough to warrant being annoying already. Sorry :/

Before I make a character, a quick few questions:
-Do we get any additional gear when starting out, or just any class specific starting items? How does gear acquisition in general work anyway?
-The classes that start with items instead of stat bonuses, can they trade in their items later for money, or is their starting perk basically wasted once they get better gear?

Otherwise it seems like not taking a stat bonus is a waste in the medium to long term. Then again, having good stats but lacking the kit to use it can be a problem until you struggle through that first expedition.

[piecewise]

Gonna repost this, seems important enough to warrant being annoying already. Sorry :/

Before I make a character, a quick few questions:
-Do we get any additional gear when starting out, or just any class specific starting items? How does gear acquisition in general work anyway?
-The classes that start with items instead of stat bonuses, can they trade in their items later for money, or is their starting perk basically wasted once they get better gear?

Otherwise it seems like not taking a stat bonus is a waste in the medium to long term. Then again, having good stats but lacking the kit to use it can be a problem until you struggle through that first expedition.

There's some gear on the machine, and simple (ie +30 and less) weapons can be manufactured in the workshop without Knowledge.  The roll is Build difficulty 20 + the weapon rating.

Their starting perk is that they have a weapon for sure, where as other people might only have a weapon depending on the skills and availability of a builder. However, if this seems too crappy, I'll switch it to be that they have other, different bonuses.

 

[Radio Controlled]

Personally, I'd suggest trying to make it so that every classes' perk remains (somewhat) useful even into later game. Perhaps you could replace items (except for the wizard, who needs an eye thingie to function) either with a stat bonus/non-numerical perk, or with a more unique item that'd be hard to find/manufacture and won't easily be replaced (eg a pistol or knife would just end up being useless once a better weapon is found/made, while something like a scope that gives +10 to blast and needs to be attached to the weapon to work remains useful the entire game).

[Pancaek]

Spoiler: another waffel (click to show/hide)

Name: PanzerWaffel Ausf. D

Archtype: Engineheart

Blast: 30
Fight: 0
Endure: 40 (30+10)
Move: 15
Hide: 0
Find: 5
Transcend: 0
Recover: 10
Build: 0
Control: 10

Body:25
Stamina:15
Mind:10

[piecewise]

Personally, I'd suggest trying to make it so that every classes' perk remains (somewhat) useful even into later game. Perhaps you could replace items (expect for the wizard, who need an eye thingie to function) either with a stat bonus/non-numerical perk, or with a more unique item that'd be hard to find/manufacture and won't easily be replaced (eg a pistol or knife would just end up being useless once a better weapon is found/made, while something like a scope that gives +10 to blast and needs to be attached to the weapon to work remains useful the entire game).

I've modified the archetypes a bit, trying to balance things.

[Rautherdir]

Changed Character sheet:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Name: Vokun Kaaz

Archetype: Quiet Man

Abilities:
Blast:     0
Fight:     30 (+5 Knife)
Endure:    15
Move:      20
Hide:      25 (+20)
Find:      10
Transcend: 0
Recover:   0
Build:     0
Control:   0

Attributes:
Body:    25
Stamina: 15
Mind:    10

Inventory:
Knife (+5 Fight)

[Radio Controlled]

Added charsheet to initial post, copying it here as well.

Spoiler: Joshua Abraham Darvaza (click to show/hide)

Name: Joshua Abraham Darvaza
Male, 30 years old
Styling himself as ‘Emperor of the Deep’, Joshua is ever so slightly unhinged at times.

Archetype: Dau-de-Daleth Ascetic
Abilities
Blast: 10
Fight: 0
Endure: 15
Move: 15
Hide: 0
Find: 0
Transcend: 30 =>45 (+10 Priest’s Beadchain, +5 Eye Disk)
Recover: 10
Build: 20
Control: 0

Attributes
Body: 10
Stamina: 20
Mind: 20

Inventory
Eye Disk
Priest’s Beadchain

[Devastator]

-cut for move to OOC-

[Ozarck]

I honestly don't know enough to say whether things are balanced or not. I think some of the other players (those who are planning to dive the Deep Sea, or construct artifacts) are undervaluing knowledge a bit, though. If I cold, I'd max out int and knowledge, but one needs at least one in body to live, and some stamina to act, so I need those too.

[spazyak]

PTW

[TheBiggerFish]

YES

ALL THE YES

Er...Now to flail at Docs.