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Bolgfred

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How to start a Library Fort
« on: December 22, 2016, 10:32:11 am »

Dear Dwarf Society,

What does it need to gain Wisdom?
I recently planned to build a fortress with a large library and extensive intellectual exchange with book, beer and tantrums.

For this I start with 7 scholar dwarfs, which should be able to resarch for themself and teach others to share their knowledge etc...
I was using a similar skill setup for everyone:

Teacher 2 (I think this is needed to teach?)
Student 1 ( necessary to be teached?)
Reading 1 (necesary to read books or just for speed?)
Writing 1 ( necessary to write or just quality?)
Unique Science Topic 5

Every scholar or copier gets no labors active

My Library aint been that special:
20-100 bookshelves
20 chairs&tables
20 chestboxes
100 writing materials (codex,quire, thread and book rollers)

Despite my library seems to be very popular for idling dwarfs and ducks, it seems to me that my scholars are mostly pondering oder discussing, but after 4 years there were only 2-3 books written and I don't notice any skillgain oder some progression. I am watching the craftshop closely if there is any bookbinding job to to but theres rarely one.

Question now: what am I doing wrong? Am I using the wrong starting skills? Should I build multiple libraries for every topic? Can a single duck or 5 pigs interrupt the library business? Or is there anything special I need to do to make my Fortress join the science club?

Thanks in advance.
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Fleeting Frames

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Re: How to start a Library Fort
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2016, 07:05:25 pm »

Need Teacher 3, "library topic" 10 to teach.

Reading books provides reader and student skills at slow pace, iirc. You need no skill to read books, unlike in adventure mode.

Military training provides both teacher and student skills faster - just have dwarf run a demonstration to teach something to someone else as good or worse as them in any military skill.

Writing is just quality, I believe. I've also tested wordsmith - had it rust away on a librarian.

You probably could fit all those writing materials into two chests, and all the books you have produced so far into 1 bookcase. (Still, it's cool to have a large library.)

But more importantly, beware of bugs:

a) Library tends to queue a single job at time for whatever tasking, i.e. scribing. Then if the scribe gets interrupted, the book remains TSK'd but the scribe never returns. Workaround is to (mass-)forbid, wait a bit, unforbid.

b) There have been container function failures with overlapping/second library/room. Thankfully, you can just (stock)pile all you want in a library on the ground in library instead, much like a hospital.

As far as unique science topics go, there are few of particular note:

- Mechanic counts, is an useful moodable skill (will be taught to others through discussing) and can be easily trained to above 10. If you don't want piles of dabbling mechanics and just care about the teacher-student relationships, Organizer or Record keeper are also trainable to high levels.

- Healthcare skills count.

- Philosopher is necessary to write value agendas books, which allow books to change the values of readers (instead of merely giving little student, reader experience and satisfying a need for abstract thinking).

- Critical thinking branches out the most. Also, required to be a sage.

While it can take a while to produce a book (they need to make a breakthrough or have an experience), I'd also check their personality and needs - valuing knowledge, curiosity and desire/need for abstract thoughts are all useful - though it's hard to have the last one go into red when your fort is stocked-up on books, a dwarf who has it go into red would probably make a good scholar.

However, this is unlikely to hamper everyone of your starting 7.

When it comes to books, just plain quires are also readable - named as <X> quire before writing and "Name" (copy) after being written on.
« Last Edit: December 22, 2016, 07:07:44 pm by Fleeting Frames »
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Re: How to start a Library Fort
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2016, 02:08:00 pm »

I made a library fort! We had almost 200 unique volumes! Then we made COPIES.

I ended up with like 10 scholars and 2-3 scribes.
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