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[TheBiggerFish]

Hah.

Finally watched it today.

[Kot]

Spoiler: Also, to people who say exploding stuff was stupid (click to show/hide)

They didin't actually explode the whole place. They got the dish, so no transmission and the resulting huge explosion could proably not harm the tower that much... I mean, it would, but I suppose the data would still be salvageable. The planet is fucked up, not a paradise anymore but it's not like they exploded it to pieces.

[☼Another☼]

They kill most (if not all) (largish) life on that planet. Plus, the way that it looks I think they would have blown up the tower.

[Kot]

You don't need life, you need data.
Data is stored inside those super safe vaults, also in the long time ago their storage disks proably can withstand more.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

There is no way any part of that base survived. The low-power shot on Jakku casually takes out a mountain, and from a similar distance.

[Sirus]

It'd have to be buried really, really deep, perhaps shielded and armored, and even then...

Obviously some plans survived somewhere because they built a second one, but without the mole's edits they (accidentally?) corrected the hidden sabotage.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Maybe not, DSII was never finished. By the time of the battle it was a superstructure, a planetbuster, and the reactor. As you'll recall, they just flew inside it from one of the giant openings in the armor.

[Sirus]

You're correct of course. However I got the impression that the Rebel fleet simply had to strike before DSII was finished because they would not be able to repeat the same tactic as last time.

I swear that the EU at some point also mentioned that the single large vent was going to be replaced by many tiny vents, none large enough to admit access to a pair of proton torpedoes. The EU is questionably canon now, but it makes sense that even the Empire would be capable of correcting that sort of flaw.

[Flying Dice]

The weak point wasn't the ventilation shaft. The weak point was that shooting the reactor core once would cause a cascading failure that made the whole station go up like the largest bootleg Chinese firecracker ever made.

Note that the same thing happened to Death Star II: part of the reactor got shot a couple times by a fighter and the entire station detonated.

Now granted, it's silly as hell to have a "ventilation shaft" IN HARD VACUUM WHERE HEAT DOESN'T DISSIPATE VERY MUCH, and that could also have been part of it, but the big bit was the reactor having basically no failsafes or emergency shutdown.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

They could be venting waste vapor through the shaft, which would carry a good deal of heat out of the station at the cost of permanently losing the material. Which is exactly the kind of questionable but utterly innocuous vulnerability you'd want to create for such a plan, now that I think about it.

[Sirus]

The weak point wasn't the ventilation shaft. The weak point was that shooting the reactor core once would cause a cascading failure that made the whole station go up like the largest bootleg Chinese firecracker ever made.

Note that the same thing happened to Death Star II: part of the reactor got shot a couple times by a fighter and the entire station detonated.

Now granted, it's silly as hell to have a "ventilation shaft" IN HARD VACUUM WHERE HEAT DOESN'T DISSIPATE VERY MUCH, and that could also have been part of it, but the big bit was the reactor having basically no failsafes or emergency shutdown.

A fighter and a light freighter...but yeah, that's a very good point.

[Urist McScoopbeard]

Wait. Does the blast from the Death Star in the end actually hit the comms dish? Or do they just fire as quickly as possible once in shockwave range and thats why its so off target?

[Kot]

Wait. Does the blast from the Death Star in the end actually hit the comms dish? Or do they just fire as quickly as possible once in shockwave range and thats why its so off target?

It does.
It goes straight through the dish, killing the Space Nazi Research Officer, proably even headshoots him.

[Urist McScoopbeard]

Wait. Does the blast from the Death Star in the end actually hit the comms dish? Or do they just fire as quickly as possible once in shockwave range and thats why its so off target?

It does.
It goes straight through the dish, killing the Space Nazi Research Officer, proably even headshoots him.

360 Death Star scope?

[Telgin]

+1 for K-2SO love.  He was easily my favorite character out of the movie.

In general I'll say that I really loved the movie and actually liked it more than Episode VII, with similar comments to everyone else so far.  That is, it was hard to get attached to many of the characters and places because of the jumping around early on, and of course the Darth Vader line.  I found it particularly distressing that I couldn't even remember Cassian's name after the movie ended.  He just didn't leave much impression on me for some reason.  The pilot's name I can't recall either if he was even given one, but I liked him better.

Bonus points to the writers for having the guts to kill everyone off though.  I was surprisingly pleased that they did that.

One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet was that the ending with the Tantive IV felt the tiniest bit tacked on.  I always figured that they got the plans to the ship covertly somehow and that it was operating under the guise of peaceful civilian use when it was captured in Episode IV.  Never thought it had literally just escaped assaulting an Imperial world to get those plans, but I guess it works.