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[smjjames]

I'm aware of the whole Bunga Bunga thing (and also as a nickname for him), though it seemed like the prostitution with the minor got the, well, loudest, news. At least that's what stood out more to me at the time maybe.

[Loud Whispers]

I'm aware of the whole Bunga Bunga thing (and also as a nickname for him), though it seemed like the prostitution with the minor got the, well, loudest, news. At least that's what stood out more to me at the time maybe.

Minors
plural
Lots of plural

[Arx]

Grace Mugabe has probably already left the country, incidentally. And people are asking the police pointed questions about flight risks.

[Neonivek]

I know this is a non-sequitur... but

Wow South Africa is screeeewed!

•Child sexual prostitution

How does that happen? Wait... It isn't that he is pimping that would mean is... What a sicko!!!

I actually hope that didn't happen... if only because, well... Think of the children.

[smjjames]

I know this is a non-sequitur... but

Wow South Africa is screeeewed!

•Child sexual prostitution

How does that happen? Wait... It isn't that he is pimping that would mean is... What a sicko!!!

I actually hope that didn't happen... if only because, well... Think of the children.

As in underage prostitutes, and his nickname IS Bunga Bunga. And that's along with all the other corrupton stuff.

[Arx]

Where are you reading this, Neo? Because whilst the country isn't in a particularly good shape, it's not as bad as some people make it out to be. You can find otherwise-reasonable seeming sites claiming with a straight face that there's a genocide goign on here, for instance.

[martinuzz]

Indeed Neo, why would South Africa be screwed because of what an Italian president did in Italy years ago?

Or are you referring to a possible diplomatic riot with Zimbamwe, if for some reason Grace has not fled the country yet and they arrest her?

[Arx]

Or are you referring to a possible diplomatic riot with Zimbamwe, if for some reason Grace has not fled the country yet and they arrest her?

There's currently a red alert on to prevent her from leaving (although it wouldn't be the first time a wanted criminal got away). She will almost certainly be prosecuted, but she's trying to invoke diplomatic immunity (which she doesn't have - our law only implicitly extends it to heads of state, and this wasn't an official visit).

[scriver]

Zimbabwe's just over the border though, right?

[Arx]

It is. The police are catching some flak for not actually arresting her, because she has "flight risk" written all over her. It was actually thought she might have fled already when the news broke.

[scriver]

Yeah. Borders can be a bitch to secure though. Particularly when you've got an entire dictatorship's resources at your disposal.

I guess that's just even more reason to have detained her in the first place, on second thought.

[Neonivek]

Where are you reading this, Neo? Because whilst the country isn't in a particularly good shape, it's not as bad as some people make it out to be. You can find otherwise-reasonable seeming sites claiming with a straight face that there's a genocide goign on here, for instance.

Ohh no not anything involving genocide or anything like that... In fact given I am holding it to first world standards says something about how well it is doing as a country.

It is mostly having serious problem socially with its social programs, laws, and education. I feel like it is headed towards some sort of collapse.

Though alternatively it could just be building itself up slowly and these issues will go away over time naturally.

[Arx]

No, not headed towards collapse - at least not fast. I live here, I'd notice that kind of thing. Definitely shady stuff going on, but not so the country is going to implode.

[Sheb]

No, not headed towards collapse - at least not fast. I live here, I'd notice that kind of thing. Definitely shady stuff going on, but not so the country is going to implode.

At that is the last that was heard of Arx before the Great Collapse of 2017, when South Africa fell in a bottomless pit after violently imploding, leaving a sole remaine a fire-preventing swimming pool floating in the air in an eldricht green glow.

[scriver]

The truth is that the collapse will not be dramatic. It will come in small tides, giving you time to get used to the current stage's version of road-bandits and highwaymen before the ones with the leather gear and 80's hair styling appear.

Yes, I went to the Mad Max school of Apocalypses.