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AlexanderTheIncompetant

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Arms trade
« on: November 26, 2016, 03:28:35 pm »
  What happens to the items you trade away to caravans?. Do they just cease to exist or does the game actually simulate their use outside of the fortress, and if so can you find them in the world afterwards. I'm particularly curious about if weapons and armor you sell them will be used on the battlefield and affect the fortunes of the particular civ in battle.
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PatrikLundell

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Re: Arms trade
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2016, 03:38:03 pm »
They currently disappear.
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AlexanderTheIncompetant

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Re: Arms trade
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2016, 04:30:34 pm »
ok thanks
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Quote from: Pirate Santa on December 19, 2014, 12:44:07 am
Or you could just let the children roam free and natural selection will take care of them.
Quote from: C27 on December 24, 2014, 07:41:26 pm
I'm now picturing an elf wrestler trying to suplex my battlements.

Skorpion

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Re: Arms trade
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2016, 06:49:49 pm »
They never just vanished. Even way back in 40d, they appeared in dwarven fortresses elsewhere in bulk.
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The *large serrated steel disk* strikes the Raven in the head, tearing apart the muscle, shattering the skull, and tearing apart the brain!
A tendon in the skull has been torn!
The Raven has been knocked unconcious!

Elves do it in trees. Humans do it in wooden structures. Dwarves? Dwarves do it underground. With magma.

WaffleEggnog

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Re: Arms trade
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2016, 07:44:00 am »
Quote from: Skorpion on November 26, 2016, 06:49:49 pm
They never just vanished. Even way back in 40d, they appeared in dwarven fortresses elsewhere in bulk.
I'm pretty sure
Quote from: PatrikLundell on November 26, 2016, 03:38:03 pm
They currently disappear.
is correct. It's what I've always head, at least.
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Skorpion

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Re: Arms trade
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2016, 04:48:12 pm »
I've found shittons of masterwork and exceptional stone crafts in dwarven mountainhomes after having a fort trading binfuls every year and abandoning it. And the cinnabar mugs I specifically made to sell to the elves were found in elven sites. That was back in 40d, and I assume it's not changed since then with the whole 'world keeps happening' stuff.
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The *large serrated steel disk* strikes the Raven in the head, tearing apart the muscle, shattering the skull, and tearing apart the brain!
A tendon in the skull has been torn!
The Raven has been knocked unconcious!

Elves do it in trees. Humans do it in wooden structures. Dwarves? Dwarves do it underground. With magma.

imperium3

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Re: Arms trade
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2016, 05:54:03 pm »
Pretty sure Skorpion is right here, and they don't just vanish (though I don't think the game does any more than take them to the nearest settlement). I saw a recent post in this forum where someone got a wave of masterpiece destruction messages after the nearby mountainhome was destroyed by goblins.

If anyone wants to test it, try selling things that would stick out like a sore thumb (e.g. lots of metal gear to the elves ) then send an adventurer to look for those items.
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Re: Arms trade
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2016, 04:32:09 pm »
Wave of masterpiece destruction messages when trading things to caravans and when liaison brings messages of mountainhome being destroyed - well, that does happen in 42.06. (the bad thoughts were removed in 43.03, but...)

And when you check the legends for your fort - I've done this - they were typically destroyed by (sometimes long-dead) dragon, at the moment the caravan left the map, not by some goblin armies.

Still, can you point me to said recent post?
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