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[doll]

You were the one that proclaimed him town...

That doesn't answer the questions at all?

Was there anything suspicious about TDS's 'hammer' post?
Are you concerned by the fact that he hammered while questions were unanswered, and so quickly after I took responsibility for the lynch?

[fillipk]

I'm all in favor of sticking with the don't lynch Doll and she decides the lynches plan, my only thing is it shouldn't be TDS

I can get behind a Hector13 lynch. Mostly to find out info about everyone else. I am slightly concerned that doll still sees himself in the running for being lynched, though - if hector flips scum I'm going to take a very careful look at what doll has done so far.

Can I just point out the stupidity of going after the person wanting to be unlynchable for being scum, especially before seeing Hector flip scum.  This is literally just throwing shade at Doll for no good reason what so ever.  What's Doll's plan now if she's scum, wait till there's like 3 people left and try to get herself lynched, never going to fly as she wanted to be unlynchable so she can't bring up anything about wanting to be lynched without looking scummy.

TDS, fillipk
Why did you unvote hector?
Why did you both unvote, when he wasn't at L-1 after fillipk unvoted?

Gut reaction to him being at L-12.  Don't know why TDS unvoted, I'm asking him the same thing.

Why didn't you think this gut reaction through before changing your vote?
At what point exactly (give a link) did you realize the supremely obvious fact that quick hammering scum would make you a pariah?

Here

Most importantly: why did you respond with "I don't know" rather than speculating in a game which has no mechanical information.

I mean what do you want me to speculate.  I literately see no town reason for him to do such a thing, especially the way he did it

TDS, fillipk
Why did you unvote hector?
Why did you both unvote, when he wasn't at L-1 after fillipk unvoted?

As hector self-voted, I saw him as much more scummy. Hence, I unvoted to signal that.

I don't even buy this, especially since he didn't put that when he unvoted, he did exactly the same thing I did, laughed at it and unvoted. 

Hector13
Why did you quote TDS before fillipk in your post, when your post raises the concern of their similarity where the order of the posts is extremely important?

RVS coming in the next post I guess

I second this question, though i have an idea as to why i would do that.

Of course you have an idea.
Why don't you post it?

You asked me that question when you asked me the 5 questions and I answered it then. 

Conveniently, this setup allows me to issue ultimatums (it lets you do so too).
I will not vote for any player who has not adequately outlined their position on the following (agreeing with another player is fine):
Is this setup townsided?
If not, is there any reason not to use the 'unlynchable martyr' technique and just have a town player claim, avoid lynches, and generate the lynches for the town using random.org (or w/e)?

I'd say its townsided because the mafia has a hard time coming back from any mistake they make, thus the best strategy is to just have everyone generate lots of content and create the most opportunities for mafia to make mistakes.  As for my ultimatum: I will not seriously vote for any player not engage in a meaningful discussion with the rest of the players.  If you are less active but post on a regular basis with decent content that is fine.

In your view then, activity is the primary marker of townhood in this game?

One of them, yes.  It also gives more information to analyze which helps us figure out who the scum are.  So while being active isn't the end all to being town it prevents scum from hiding behind a low post count.

fillipk
Why did TDS unvote?
Why did Hector13 switch the post order of you and TDS? Was it really just an honest mistake caused by quoting while in the post window? Is there such a thing?
Why did Hector13 unvote?
Why am I asking you so many questions?
Why am I voting TheBiggerFish

1. Hell if I know
2. Not likely an honest mistake as it was a super formatted post, thus the reason I think he did it was to try and change the narrative and see who went along with it, if TDS was scum he might have tried to promote the idea that he unvoted first and I'm the scum because of that, it was just another test which is what we should be doing all the time.
3. No reason to leave the vote on, he could be doing something else with his vote during the day to find scum and it makes it more convenient to do that if you are not voting.
4. Probably because you think I'm [redacted] and want to confirm those suspicions or prove them wrong
5. To try and get me to think you agree with him that I'm scum even though he has put out no evidence for that point, you could have your own reasons and if you do I'm sure to find them out now.

Oh and before I forget Hector13

1. Then speculate on it.
2. Is TDS scum with Hector?
3. Why is being unvoted different from leaving your vote on yourself?
4. Actually, it's because of your activity pattern. Is this (activity pattern) a good or bad thing in my view?
5. Actually I'm voting TBF because out of the active players town stands the least to gain from his continued presence. I lean toward suspecting that he might be scum. Why am I voting for a player I lean toward suspecting to be scum?

fillipk
Why didn't you ask me a question?
Do you not care about finding out my role, say, because you already know it?

Oh you mean when I asked all the active players a question, you weren't in the game then, if you want me to ask you a question fine How would you go about winning as scum right now.

1. I did in this post
2. I'd go with yes now, seeing as Hector flipped scum, first off he backed off Hector without even saying he thought Hector was more scum just saying lol no after there was no possibility of a quick hammer.  Second, as i pointed out at the top of the post he throws shade at Doll before Hector flips scum, in fact it was part of the last content of the day which could just be a coincidence.  But since Doll is happy to claim unlynchable, and I'm happy to put her there implying Doll might be scum makes very little sense except to make the town trust Doll less.
3. Just personal preference the answer to that question was me putting my views on TBF, however I mostly had issue with this post by TBF where he implies that he's just going to use his words to try and fine scum.
4. You seem to think its bad calling out my play as negative or anti-town due to lack of hunting, I'm not sure I agree with you when it comes down to a lack of hunting
5. I'd say its because you don't suspect him of being scum that much, after all your only leaning that way.... wait a minute TBF has done less hunting then me and your telling everyone I'm scum for less scum hunting, anything else you would like to add into why you think I'm scum?

Oh and before I forget Hector13

I don't like it when it's not immediately obvious why someone is voting for someone else.

You defended me over the weekend citing your thoughts on my reaction test (it wasn't a gambit as I had nothing to lose from someone else hammering me there) even though I hadn't really made them clear beyond "I don't think anyone is going to hammer anyone else during RVS" so you weren't really open to my thought process.

The vote could be an extension of that, but that seems a lot like buddying... particularly in light of your answer to question 2 from doll.

fillipk
Your response to this contributes nothing other than literal WIFOM about whether or not a player was posting from phone, and even that you back away from almost straight away.
Why are you so desperate not to push on another player?
Why are you now voting Hector13?

1.  Oh please he claimed he was posting from his phone

I was posting using my phone at the time, and I was responding to TDS, so it was convenient for me to take the particular quote from the post that I had already quoted first, and then proceed to editing in fillipk's.

No WIFOM created at all as i was explaining my thoughts behind answer two as I didn't have this piece of information when i answered it.
2. I was pushing on TBF, he just never responded the rest of the day.  TBF why did you think I was scum? you never did answer that.
3. I thought he was town, i thought it was pretty clear when i said I thought his responses were too honest to be scum, also as you pointed out he was active in conversation, probably more so then anyone except me and Doll, and almost all of his posts generated discussion even if he claims he didn't intend it like that. 
All and all I think TBF is a safe lynch today but I would like to drag out this day to get more information on Imic, who has barely posted and TDS.

[doll]

Can I just point out the stupidity of going after the person wanting to be unlynchable for being scum, especially before seeing Hector flip scum.  This is literally just throwing shade at Doll for no good reason what so ever.  What's Doll's plan now if she's scum, wait till there's like 3 people left and try to get herself lynched, never going to fly as she wanted to be unlynchable so she can't bring up anything about wanting to be lynched without looking scummy.

Actually, my only plan for getting lynched now was to wait until there were three people (probably you, TDS, and myself) and get you to lynch me.
If that's not going to happen then yes, I am unlynchable.

I mean what do you want me to speculate.  I literately see no town reason for him to do such a thing, especially the way he did it

So was it a mistake or was it scummy?

One of them, yes.  It also gives more information to analyze which helps us figure out who the scum are.  So while being active isn't the end all to being town it prevents scum from hiding behind a low post count.

Is TheBiggerFish or Imic scummier?
Why?

Is TDS activelurking?

1. Then speculate on it.
2. Is TDS scum with Hector?
3. Why is being unvoted different from leaving your vote on yourself?
4. Actually, it's because of your activity pattern. Is this (activity pattern) a good or bad thing in my view?
5. Actually I'm voting TBF because out of the active players town stands the least to gain from his continued presence. I lean toward suspecting that he might be scum. Why am I voting for a player I lean toward suspecting to be scum?

fillipk
Why didn't you ask me a question?
Do you not care about finding out my role, say, because you already know it?

Oh you mean when I asked all the active players a question, you weren't in the game then, if you want me to ask you a question fine How would you go about winning as scum right now.

1. I did in this post
2. I'd go with yes now, seeing as Hector flipped scum, first off he backed off Hector without even saying he thought Hector was more scum just saying lol no after there was no possibility of a quick hammer.  Second, as i pointed out at the top of the post he throws shade at Doll before Hector flips scum, in fact it was part of the last content of the day which could just be a coincidence.  But since Doll is happy to claim unlynchable, and I'm happy to put her there implying Doll might be scum makes very little sense except to make the town trust Doll less.
3. Just personal preference the answer to that question was me putting my views on TBF, however I mostly had issue with this post by TBF where he implies that he's just going to use his words to try and fine scum.
4. You seem to think its bad calling out my play as negative or anti-town due to lack of hunting, I'm not sure I agree with you when it comes down to a lack of hunting
5. I'd say its because you don't suspect him of being scum that much, after all your only leaning that way.... wait a minute TBF has done less hunting then me and your telling everyone I'm scum for less scum hunting, anything else you would like to add into why you think I'm scum?

You never asked all players in the game a general question.
You asked TWS a truly trivial RVS question.
You only asked me a question, a despite my being a new and active player, after I prompted you, at a time when I am under policy-do-not-lynch.
The question you did ask me is pointless WIFOM, at a time when we're discussing actually relevant events.

Allow me to drill this into your mind:
I pick who comes with me into the final two.
If you are town, you lose (and so does everyone else).
If you are scum, you lose.
Convince me that you are town. Because that's not what you're doing right now.

2. Actually, TDS seemed to be considering the fact that I didn't actually claim unlynchable, just say that I would do so if necessary. You've forced me into the role of unlynchable now. If I could pick the final two, I would have had some doubt who else to put with you, but outside of a truly stellar game from now on it's you and me. If you're saying that yes, TDS is scum then that means that you think I'm not scum and yet you're tunneling me into being unlynchable.
Would you therefore accept a final two of you and TDS, knowing that that means that scum loses if he is scum?
4. A lack of hunting is anti-town. That's not why I picked up on you as scum, though.
5. Wrong.

I'll say it again.
I think that fillpk (that's you) is scum because he appeared to know that I was town.
A lack of scumhunting contributes to this thought.

Fun fact: you also started D1's lynch on scum.

No WIFOM created at all as i was explaining my thoughts behind answer two as I didn't have this piece of information when i answered it.

Sure, except you never mentioned that at the time and that's not what I was calling you out on WIFOMing in.

doll

Hector13
Why did you quote TDS before fillipk in your post, when your post raises the concern of their similarity where the order of the posts is extremely important?

What makes the order of the posts important? I was addressing a similarity, so put the posts next to each other sans fluff so others could see it.

I was posting using my phone at the time, and I was responding to TDS, so it was convenient for me to take the particular quote from the post that I had already quoted first, and then proceed to editing in fillipk's.

Maybe I'm building a strawman of you as someone who is taking gambits and risks in an attempt to find scum.  Or even if they weren't gambits in the first place they can be used as one and I'm crediting you with those, even if you didn't intend that. As for answer two, you never mentioned that you posted from phone so I am to assume you posted from a computer where you could format, thus the only reason you would put TDS first is if you were lazy or you were trying something, you don't seem lazy so I assumed you were trying something and thus I shared my thoughts on what that may be Anyway your my top pick for town right now, your reactions and answers have been too honest to be hiding something, that's why I'm voting for you.

I have to ask though, why wouldn't you take credit for the gambits I'm saying you did?

Except, I was wrong from the start.
It's not WIFOM.
You were defending Hector13's behavior, while still saying that he was intentionally swapping the posts.

I want to lynch Imic and TBF first.
I wanted to lynch Imic first because he's even less active to the point where he literally did not vote, but he's also more suspicious.
TBF is playing into his usual meta. I don't have a real problem with saying that he's town, even if his behavior hasn't been very helpful.

I'll wait for more input on the inactive players before we go ahead with getting rid of them.
(it's safe to do so because fillipk is scum)

[fillipk]

Doll I never said that I thought you were town, I don't think I every implied that  The only person I was decently sure was town day 1 was Hector13 and that turned out to be wrong oh well.  Now I'm decently sure your town as i think TDS is scum.

Interesting, I didn't notice that, though I would like you to explain my thoughts if i was his scum buddy and i only focused on getting him lynched, what's my follow up plan to convince people that I'm not scum seeing as the only person I voted turned up scum.  Whats my follow up plan, especially considering me and Hector would have been communicating all day and fleshing out this plan.  You said it yourself Hector is a decent player, so even if I wasn't he would have helped me with this plan.

I mean what do you want me to speculate.  I literately see no town reason for him to do such a thing, especially the way he did it

So was it a mistake or was it scummy?

Defintiely scummy in my opinion, like you have called me out for it just creates WIFOM if or if not Doll was scum trying to get their scum buddy lynched or if they were town and made an honest mistake.  When you consider the fact that it was the hammer vote it makes this even worse as we get to think about that during the night and probably focus our examinations on you instead of anyone else.

One of them, yes.  It also gives more information to analyze which helps us figure out who the scum are.  So while being active isn't the end all to being town it prevents scum from hiding behind a low post count.

Is TheBiggerFish or Imic scummier?
Why?

Is TDS activelurking?

Until he responds to my question as to why he thinks I'm scum he is right now.  but I don't have  a read on Imic so that's why I suggested TBF to be lynched today.  TBF has been playing this new town scummy style of low scum hunting, passive voting, almost active lurking that reads as new town or scum in my book, Its not any one singular action he took but all his actions which basically did nothing on day 1.  I will update this after TBF responds a bit more.

Yes I would say TDS is active lurking, he's had a decent amount of content but he's responded with the simplest of answers and asked the simplest of questions. (His probability analysis, while nice didn't help find scum so I'm ignoring that for now.)  Maybe its just his post style but I don't think I've seen him give reads or any indication on who he thinks is scum except you Doll.

TDS.  Seeing as I have called you out for active lurking please produce reads within the next 24 hours or as soon as you see this post, I will be checking when you were last active to make sure you aren't ignoring this.

1. Then speculate on it.
2. Is TDS scum with Hector?
3. Why is being unvoted different from leaving your vote on yourself?
4. Actually, it's because of your activity pattern. Is this (activity pattern) a good or bad thing in my view?
5. Actually I'm voting TBF because out of the active players town stands the least to gain from his continued presence. I lean toward suspecting that he might be scum. Why am I voting for a player I lean toward suspecting to be scum?

fillipk
Why didn't you ask me a question?
Do you not care about finding out my role, say, because you already know it?

Oh you mean when I asked all the active players a question, you weren't in the game then, if you want me to ask you a question fine How would you go about winning as scum right now.

1. I did in this post
2. I'd go with yes now, seeing as Hector flipped scum, first off he backed off Hector without even saying he thought Hector was more scum just saying lol no after there was no possibility of a quick hammer.  Second, as i pointed out at the top of the post he throws shade at Doll before Hector flips scum, in fact it was part of the last content of the day which could just be a coincidence.  But since Doll is happy to claim unlynchable, and I'm happy to put her there implying Doll might be scum makes very little sense except to make the town trust Doll less.
3. Just personal preference the answer to that question was me putting my views on TBF, however I mostly had issue with this post by TBF where he implies that he's just going to use his words to try and fine scum.
4. You seem to think its bad calling out my play as negative or anti-town due to lack of hunting, I'm not sure I agree with you when it comes down to a lack of hunting
5. I'd say its because you don't suspect him of being scum that much, after all your only leaning that way.... wait a minute TBF has done less hunting then me and your telling everyone I'm scum for less scum hunting, anything else you would like to add into why you think I'm scum?

You never asked all players in the game a general question.
You asked TWS a truly trivial RVS question.
You only asked me a question, a despite my being a new and active player, after I prompted you, at a time when I am under policy-do-not-lynch.
The question you did ask me is pointless WIFOM, at a time when we're discussing actually relevant events.

Allow me to drill this into your mind:
I pick who comes with me into the final two.
If you are town, you lose (and so does everyone else).
If you are scum, you lose.
Convince me that you are town. Because that's not what you're doing right now.

2. Actually, TDS seemed to be considering the fact that I didn't actually claim unlynchable, just say that I would do so if necessary. You've forced me into the role of unlynchable now. If I could pick the final two, I would have had some doubt who else to put with you, but outside of a truly stellar game from now on it's you and me. If you're saying that yes, TDS is scum then that means that you think I'm not scum and yet you're tunneling me into being unlynchable.
Would you therefore accept a final two of you and TDS, knowing that that means that scum loses if he is scum?
4. A lack of hunting is anti-town. That's not why I picked up on you as scum, though.
5. Wrong.

I'll say it again.
I think that fillpk (that's you) is scum because he appeared to know that I was town.
A lack of scumhunting contributes to this thought.

Fun fact: you also started D1's lynch on scum.

Neither has anyone else but you.
Yeah and? He didn't respond I didn't pick him to be one of the ones I came up with a good question for.
I wasn't an active player that much after you joined.  If you remember I had two posts after you joined before day 1 ended and it was just to answer some questions from you and Hector.  Should we assume Imic pretended to know our alignments as he never asked any questions, how about TBF, he didn't even post after you joined

Yeah I asked you a question after you asked me too and it did pertain to the situation at hand, TDS thinks you might be scum so I had you explain how you would go about being lynched if you were scum since Hector turned up scum.

Sure, lets see your argument that I'm scum is a general lack of scum hunting along with me ignoring you in my two posts after you joined and voting for Hector almost all of day 1.  Lets ignore the scum hunting part for now since you said it wasn't your main concern.  I talked about my vote at the top of this post, so about me ignoring you, lets see I don't think your going to accept a simple I didn't ask anyone questions in those posts I just posted them to answer questions and get discussions going so I'm just going to have to prove TDS is scummier then me.

2.  Fair enough if we didn't get scum and there were still 2 out there but since we did get scum I would like to put you in the unlynchable spot for now, or at least skip you day 2.  One problem with the TDS taking into consideration you didn't claim unlynchable, if Hector flipped scum we could just easily put you in the unlynchable spot as you said you would be willing to do that, which he should have realized since he was referencing you not claiming the position of unlynchable.  Just so its not just me how do the rest of you (Doll you should answer this too please) feel about making Doll unlynchable, explain why please

5. Then why, you asked me to speculate and I did now why would you do that?

Honestly more so then anything I appeared lazy more then I thought you were town.  I didn't feel like pressuring TWS as he wasn't posting and I did the bare minimum with my posts after you came back.  Plus until TBF responds your really the only one who thinks I'm scum that has a case, your also the loudest

I was defending his behavior and calling it out at the same time, it was so trivial that it didn't matter unless someone made a stupid mistake that made them look like scum.  It was so easy to confirm as the incorrect ordering that it was probably an honest mistake, however I saw the post as being formatted so I logic-ed myself down a rabbit hole where the behavior looked town, and if we are going to be honest it wasn't scummy behavior
I know I asked TDS for reads, I would like to hear everyone's reads too, just TDS's especially.

Here's Mine:
Doll: Probably town, was the most active on day 1 considering when they came in, decided on a scum lynch though so just to be safe I would like to put them in the unlynchable position.  Probably my second top scum pick.
TDS: My top scum pick for a combination of active lurking on day 1 and creating WIFOM when there was a simpler solution if he really thought Doll was scum.  Read my posts this day for more detailed info
TBF: Reads as New Town but with scummy behavior I just want him to post with more details really but my third top pick to be scum ATM.
Imic: Just needs to post to be honest.  I'm pretty sure if he was scum he would be posting more as he would have someone telling him specifically to post more.

[doll]

Interesting, I didn't notice that, though I would like you to explain my thoughts if i was his scum buddy and i only focused on getting him lynched, what's my follow up plan to convince people that I'm not scum seeing as the only person I voted turned up scum.  Whats my follow up plan, especially considering me and Hector would have been communicating all day and fleshing out this plan.  You said it yourself Hector is a decent player, so even if I wasn't he would have helped me with this plan.

Hector is a decent player so he took what he could get.
You weren't extraordinarily connected to the lynch, and infact were the least visible of the three of us who were equally responsible for it (you started it, I stood on top of the wagon, and TDS hammered).
You never needed to win D2. There doesn't need to be such an important and powerful plan. Scum had a good opportunity, and took it.

fillipk

Just so its not just me how do the rest of you (Doll you should answer this too please) feel about making Doll unlynchable, explain why please

I don't intend to be lynched before the last day. This is so that I can keep you in the game.
If I'm given the opportunity to be lynched on the last day I'll take it, obviously.
If you think that I'm probably town, you should have no problem at all with lynching me on Day 4 if you can't convince me to lynch you.

fillipk has confirmed multiple times that I am town in his mind

For clarification because this turns the lack of hunting into an actual scum slip rather than anti-town behavior, check this out:

4. Probably because you think I'm [redacted] and want to confirm those suspicions or prove them wrong
5. To try and get me to think you agree with him that I'm scum even though he has put out no evidence for that point, you could have your own reasons and if you do I'm sure to find them out now.

4. Yes, he stated blandly that I do not know his role in a mountainous game.
5. Yes, he actually said that.

The above is the core of my case against you.

Why you are scummy:
1) You speculated about my motivations without even the slightest hint of doubt that I was town.
2) You gave written consideration to what role I thought you were, but none at all to what role I was.
3) You did not ask me a single question in response to the 5+ that I asked you and you answered, despite it being D1 and my being a new, active player in the game.

These suggests to me that you knew that I was town.
Therefore, they suggest to me that you are scum.

Why you are anti-town:
A) Generally poor responses to questions, a lack of willingness to offer speculation, even occasionally when directly pressed for it.
B) Started the lynch on Hector13 (Scum) with next to no explanation for why at the time.

Everyone still in the thread has made meaningful mistakes (Hector didn't clearly), so these are less concerning (also they're nulltells).

In other words:

fillipk has confirmed multiple times that I am town in his mind and his vote is on Hector13, so I know that he should have no problem with a Hector-Doll lynch order. If he changes his mind about me after slipping so strongly, I'll be even happier to assume he's scum.
Incidentally, my gut feeling is that Hector13 and fillipk have been acting like a corny mid-grade scumteam, the sort of thing you see in a BM where the better player ends up bussing the other fairly quickly due to legitimately hunting and pushing on their poor play. If this is true, then fillipk is still scum and all is good so long as we don't lynch him.

[Imic]

I am dropping out of this, since rl stuff happened just after this started, soooooo... Bye.

[doll]

Imic
Please also vote yourself.

[doll]

If we're not quicklynching I guess I'll Unvote

[pisskop]

seeking replacement for imic

[fillipk]

TDS you were last active Today which is more then 24 hours after I asked you for your reads.  You made a post on the Games Threshold and Discussion List 4 hours after I asked you for reads within 24 hours so I'm pretty sure you saw it.  So what gives?

[TheDarkStar]

TDS you were last active Today which is more then 24 hours after I asked you for your reads.  You made a post on the Games Threshold and Discussion List 4 hours after I asked you for reads within 24 hours so I'm pretty sure you saw it.  So what gives?

Unlike discussion threads, mafia threads take time more than 10 seconds of time/effort to make a good post. And your request for reads was buried in the middle of a massive post.

Anyway, my reads:

fillipk - scummy for a combination of voting for scummy, responding defensively and not scumhunting, and having a set of reads that lists everyone as scum (his change of opinion on doll is also notable).
doll - probably town due to activity and scumhunting, but I'm still worried because he/she sees a possibility of being lynched later on after claiming the unlynchable spot and directing lynch yesterday. As this game seems to be heading towards a day 4 with me/doll/fillipk, doll's vote will likely decide who wins.
imic - Left, but I'm pretty sure he's town. If he was scum, he wouldn't have left so close to winning. He hasn't done all the much in general, though - if he's still alive to be replaced, I intend to question his replacement a lot.
TBF - more town leaning, but he hasn't been that active today either.

TheDarkStar
Is there any chance that TheBiggerFish or Imic are scum?

Imic - no, see my read.
TBF - we don't have much info from him and I'm much more comfortable with an imic lynch. Mostly, I'd like to see his reads.


Anyway, right now I think imic is the safest lynch for reasons stated above.

[TheBiggerFish]

Sorry I didn't post at all today guys, was having a bit of a... Thing.  Anything I need to do something about immediately tomorrow?

[doll]

doll - probably town due to activity and scumhunting, but I'm still worried because he/she sees a possibility of being lynched later on after claiming the unlynchable spot and directing lynch yesterday. As this game seems to be heading towards a day 4 with me/doll/fillipk, doll's vote will likely decide who wins.

I'll comment here for clarity:
TDS/fillipk/doll is my intended Day 4.
To win on that Day 4 scum!fillipk has to convince either of us to vote for him. It looks like his plan is to cast me as 'unlynchable' (which is easily justified) and to look like he's hunting by pushing on TDS. This is a good plan, except I haven't seen him make anything stick against TDS other than anti-town play, which with two of us being inactive and three of us having voted scum in a shamelessly quick hammer, isn't really anything new.
I'd also like to note that fillipk positioned himself against inactive players on D1. At first I was worried that this was WIFOM (before Hector flipped) but I think it was actually just a (scum) mistake; since town lose if they make a mistake as opposed to the normal state of winning if they pick right, excluding people from the pick just because they don't look very towny isn't really helpful. It is helpful if that category of player doesn't include the one person you need to get lynched, though.

Anyway, to get to the point:
The reason I've not thrown away the last whisper of a chance of getting lynched is that on D4 I would prefer a doll lynch with TDS and fillipk left alive than a TDS lynch with fillipk and a clear (in my mind) left alive.
If fillipk really does read you more strongly than he does me, since neither of us is likely to vote for him then his best bet as town is probably to vote me (since he's not getting voted). If he does do that, he can still win as town even with our reads as they stand. He's probably not town which is probably why he's creating distance from me right now (so he can convince me not to vote myself, as it were). If you (TDS) are scum then you've done a good job at convincing me not to hope for a lynch of myself in the final three, but since my read on Hector is based on his behavior rather than a process of elimination, I'm not overly concerned.

imic - Left, but I'm pretty sure he's town. If he was scum, he wouldn't have left so close to winning. He hasn't done all the much in general, though - if he's still alive to be replaced, I intend to question his replacement a lot.
TBF - more town leaning, but he hasn't been that active today either.

TheDarkStar
Is there any chance that TheBiggerFish or Imic are scum?

Imic - no, see my read.
TBF - we don't have much info from him and I'm much more comfortable with an imic lynch. Mostly, I'd like to see his reads.


Anyway, right now I think imic is the safest lynch for reasons stated above.

I can't disagree with any of this.
Imic

Sorry I didn't post at all today guys, was having a bit of a... Thing.  Anything I need to do something about immediately tomorrow?

Hammer Imic.

D3 you're going to be the top lynch target, so expect a lot of pressure (at least from TDS, anyway).

[TheBiggerFish]

*shrug*

Imic I guess.

[pisskop]

Just a reminder that Im still here and still looking for a body to fill a slot.  Deadline is paused, and I may go asking around other sites if it gets bad enough.  Sorry for the delay.