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[Trekkin]

Kadaban, I suggest finding a nice settlement of folks on the H&H forums. There arent many DF folks who play haven actively (at least no one will admit to it), and there certainly arent any DF settlements. We've had DF villages in the past, but they always ran afoul one way or another, and ultimately anyone who played in those villages left with a bad taste in their mouth.

If you're looking to learn the ropes and have fun with some friendly folks, there are many villages in the Northern Kingdom which look for new players. They're also pretty safe and relatively larpy, if you're into that scene.

Yeah, most of what turned me off of H&H was the community. There was a lot of "L2P nub/git gud/less QQ more pewpew" nonsense, mixed with the usual "[unsolicited and pointless threat] isn't a threat. It's a promise." and similar purposeless aggression. This is ignoring the murder hordes, of course, and the many delightful comments made by Jorb and Loftar themselves. Who needs player input when you can misunderstand Clausewitz?

Remember Salem, their other big MMO Best Game Evar? Remember the literal in-game KKK, and how the staff actually said "It's ok to be racist if it's against African Americans" because they bought a lot of stuff from the online store?

I'd be surprised if there is, or ever has been, a nice settlement of folks in H&H, let alone on the forums.

[Ai Shizuka]

This is the kind of game I really want to like, but I can't.
Same goes for Salem (does it still exist) or Wurm online.

I really enjoy the first stages of exploring and setting up camp, but I get bored really quickly after that. Usually when I find myself logging in to tend to my crops or mine, I ask myself: "Am I really playing a game to be a peasant? F this".
The retarded communities and the atrocious combat mechanics usually associated with these games don't help in this regard.

[Ricky]

Well first off, Salem was cancer and even the devs agree with me here.

And yeah, some of the community was/is shit, but it's improved drastically. In the last 6 months, they added the ability to teleport to your hearthfire on KO, so the number of randumb murders has dropped significantly.

In all honesty, this game is best played with others. You can hermit the whole game and have all their is to offer, but it's a lot more engaging with towns and villages which help lighten the "part time job" burden this game can be.

[Kadaban]

Thanks for the feedback guys.

I've actually started recruiting on the H&H Forums and even found a nice guy to play with.
The changes to the death system where you can now hearth/logout after being KOed was one of the reasons I came back and invested time. So far I didn't need it though as the interaction with people so far has been 100% positive.
The guy I invited didn't murder me in my sleep (yet!), the random strangers we met were talking to us instead of going for the kill, and even when we were going for a scavenge run in one of the dozens of abandoned places around our home we met that one guy that was rebuilding his old settlement right at the time we came to pillage it. A normal conversation later and we gave back anything we were going to take and made friends and are now even trading.

But enough of the blog, I can really recommend people to try H&H again with the latest changes. We're getting peaks of 360+ players and it's fun to play.

[Imic]

I would willingly make a town.

[Exerosp]

It is happeningggg.

[dennislp3]

Wow...been sooooooo long since I last played...suppose that would be a good time to take it for a spin again

[Jimmy]

Eh, I compare the fun vs. time ratio of this game to other stuff, and in my opinion it comes up short. It's too much grind, not enough fun.

[Ricky]

Updated OP to reflect the new world. If ever a time you wanted to try out Haven and Hearth again, now is the best time.

[Exerosp]

Yeah. I kept forgetting to hop on every now and then, did some things wrong, but I think I’m ready for this world.
Credos are in, which are an interesting way to get a kickstart to certain things early game if you can quest right.
There’s also going to be a new thing added to this world, oceans. And continents are in. Rowboats will be nerfed in that they apparently can’t travel oceans. Travel weariness is also in.

[Urist McManiac]

I haven't play this game in years, but I might give it another go to see what has changed. Since I'm seemingly not alone in that, I'd like to ask if there's any interest in creating a Bay12 village or something along those lines. From what I remember, staying alone was never a particularly good idea in this game.

[Jimmy]

Fair enough, if there's significant interest I'll join up. Who's responsible for the location?

[Trolldefender99]

Well, in digging around in old posts (I want to punch 14-year-old me in the gut for being such an idiot), I figured out that the last time I played this was world 5.

I imagine a lot has changed in 8 years.


Also, I realize now that in that post I mention that I wanted to start playing it again, rather than just start playing it. Meaning that I must've played it even earlier... which would date all the way back to when I was on the Minecraft forums.

The horror.

That was when I last played, was world 5. That was the best world, because the map was so huge I made an entire SOLO city by myself and a few other people (but they never played except to log on for a few minutes, so I still had to do everything solo) without worrying about PvP. All the maps after (as far as I know) were a ton smaller to make PvP. Which is fine I guess since they want HnH be a pvp game...but world 5 was like the first only sandbox MMO I enjoyed since I never had to PvP. 99% sandbox MMOs (survival games can be PvE optional which is nice, but not sandbox MMOs sadly) are always pvp, so it was a really nice change of pace.

I remember on world 5, I ran to the furthest reaches of the world (almost, I avoided the invisible barrier since people would be likely use the barrier to travel). But I ended up in this massive metropolis but it was all ruins, and the only neighbors were the friendliest chinese (or maybe they were japanese) people I ever met in a game. There was a few of them who took care of some of the city, and let me live there. Never seen such friendly people in a pvp MMO lol.

Worlds after that weren't the same at all, and never met anyone friendly like I did on world 5. That world was really the best. It had the best co-op feel, because even running to the middle of nowhere I met so many friendly people on the way there. I never had that experience since in haven and hearth, so I probably won't bother with the new world either. I just wanted to share my experience of taking up ruins (which was cool), and meeting the friendliest people I ever met in haven and hearth. And not only friendly people where I took up residence, but there was so many friendly people on the way there. Granted I do remember being chased a couple times, but I never died and they gave up when I got on my raft. Still, was a really great experience.

I do remember the lag and movement controls though. The only thing I've personally played that could have been worse or at least as bad was shores of hazeron from back in the day before they fixed it. But I probably got 100+ hours on world 5 despite that, so guess had a good enough time to play through the lag and movement.

[anexiledone]

I'm down for a fresh start in W11. Would be fun to actually play with other people as the only person I've ever played with was my brother and he quit before the Hafen update

[kilakan]

I'm playing again this world with the same few friends I've always played with.  If you guys want me to I could ask them if they mind if I set a spawn beacon for the bay12 guys to play near me.  I know they'd not be okay with new players inside our village but if yall set up nearby I'd be happy to help/teach you all things.