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[Asad3ainJalout]

Hello Guys

So I am fairly new to the game and i was trying to setup a hospital and cistern for wells for the first time. Now I read the dwarf fortress wiki and I thought i had everything sorted out. Thankfully I had planned far enough ahead to drain otherwise my dwarves would have been swimming in fun. As is, if any of you know how to clean mud out form inside a fort i would love to hear it.

Anyways I will post my water system one z-level at a time from top to bottom and hopefully you guys can A) tell me how I messed up B) help me fix it.

Top level, as you can see I am getting water from a brook (last time I tried wells I had an aquifer and that was way easier) I covered the channels with floors so my dwarves don't have fun.

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http://imgur.com/H9psn6H

Here is the channel for the feed.

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http://imgur.com/QzLybvG

Going Down

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http://imgur.com/Dgrtb27

Here is the first main transfer. I have 5 grates, to prevent fun, and I heard that drowning dwarves items can jam floodgates. Now I did think ahead to put a flood gate there, so worst case scenario I can still fill cistern, close flood gate and wait til i need more water, but I was hoping for a more automated solution. I also thought ahead to add a drain, so this is salvagable.

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http://imgur.com/Xp20HhI

Going Down x 2

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http://imgur.com/f9AsPlB
http://imgur.com/W3izbQy

Second transfer. now I leveled the water out because I was trying to take advantage of this mechanic right here, clearly i thought wrong. Now you can see i tried to level the water out. that flooded area is where my wells should be.

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http://imgur.com/nz1TixC
http://imgur.com/caExoqA

First cistern layer

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http://imgur.com/yHjAZCZ

Second cistern layer, also i just noticed that there is water in my access tunnel (I was going to cover it with a statue when i dont need to access the cistern but its flooded now so....

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http://imgur.com/GAYeV70

Third cistern level

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http://imgur.com/ViKwES6

here is the ubend and my drain into the caverns.

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http://imgur.com/77GroMC

At this point in time i did drain the  cistern and then saved, but now that i see the access hatch flooded I will need to find another way down there.

Thank you for all the help.

Also the pictures didnt show right so I just removed the img tag.

[Loci]

Imgur has apparently made it more difficult to inline their images; I fixed your links:

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Top level, as you can see I am getting water from a brook (last time I tried wells I had an aquifer and that was way easier) I covered the channels with floors so my dwarves don't have fun.


Here is the channel for the feed.


Going Down


Here is the first main transfer. I have 5 grates, to prevent fun, and I heard that drowning dwarves items can jam floodgates. Now I did think ahead to put a flood gate there, so worst case scenario I can still fill cistern, close flood gate and wait til i need more water, but I was hoping for a more automated solution. I also thought ahead to add a drain, so this is salvagable.


Going Down x 2



Second transfer. now I leveled the water out because I was trying to take advantage of this mechanic right here, clearly i thought wrong. Now you can see i tried to level the water out. that flooded area is where my wells should be.



First cistern layer


Second cistern layer, also i just noticed that there is water in my access tunnel (I was going to cover it with a statue when i dont need to access the cistern but its flooded now so....


Third cistern level


here is the ubend and my drain into the caverns.

As for how to fix it: you need a "pressure regulator" at the same level as your intended well, as shown on the wiki pressure page. In other words, put a diagonal connection in the source feed on the same z-level as your well. Here's a lazy Paint illustration:

[Asad3ainJalout]

first off, that is a really good photoshop. Secondly, thank you very much, and thirdly, do you know how I can clean all this mud out? and lastly, is there a way to label my levers so idont forget which ones are which

[Fleeting Frames]

Cleaning mud out...The quickest vanilla way would be to build, say, floors on top to remove all contaminants there. Or roads, to cover wider area and rip up more easily afterwards. Dfhack has variety of clean commands that mostly fight for fps and destroy syndromes - here, clean map mud, or spotclean would work.

Otherwise, dwarves don't remove just mud on their own (it's useful for farms), but I think they can remove it alongside other things when cleaning up, say, blood.

[Asad3ainJalout]

Thank you, do you happen to know how to label levers though?

[Fleeting Frames]

Vanilla, you'd use (N)otes function - note that the labels are not visible when inspecting lever, you need to go into (N)otes mode, which will display the text and flash the closest note, defined in the usual three-dimensional way.

DFhack has gui/rename command (Default hotkey Ctrl-Shift-N) that lets you directly change the name of the building. Also useful for stockpiles or profiled workshops, for instance.

[PatrikLundell]

Getting rid of mud is tricky. Building floors/roads and ripping them up can convert the natural stone floor underneath to soil (which can be exploited to get clay/sand deposits, at convenient deep underground tiles when the conditions are right). The only sure way I know of that doesn't involve hacking is the dwarven cure of all ills, a.k.a. magma, as it will actually remove mud. However, it's rarely worth the risk and effort to actually employ that method.

[Asad3ainJalout]

Thank you all for the help. I have not even reached magma yet, much less learned how to use it lol, ill do the floor ripping method.

[Loci]

DFhack has gui/rename command (Default hotkey Ctrl-Shift-N) that lets you directly change the name of the building. Also useful for stockpiles or profiled workshops, for instance.

DFHack also provides gui/mechanisms (default hotkey Ctrl-m), which makes naming levers almost entirely unnecessary since it shows you directly what devices each lever is connected to, and which levers are connected to each device, too. So if you want to toggle a floodgate, ctrl-m on the floodgate, jump to a linked lever, and order it pulled. However, if you're using logic gates / DF computing then labeling the lever is probably better.

[Skorpion]

Thank you, do you happen to know how to label levers though?

Colour-code levers with doors, or just with a floor tile nearby. I also like having a control room of sorts, with the levers also having a positional relationship to the doors/floodgates/whatever. This helps when I give up in frustration/complacency and come back to the game months later without remembering what did what.

[Xinael]

I actually prefer the default notes system to both renaming the building and the gui/mechanisms view. The reason is that you can add 100 characters of messages to the note as well. This lets you label it with the order things are supposed to be done in for particular processes, or with notes like "This lever never OFF when lever above is OFF" so you don't do things by accident that cause unnecessary fun.

[Garrie]

As is, if any of you know how to clean mud out form inside a fort i would love to hear it.

Check my sig.

[PatrikLundell]

Outdoors /= indoors...

Dirt roads can only be made on top of the various types of soil, not on top of stone.

[Thisfox]

I put my levers in locations so they are obviously just on the other side of the wall from the floodgate. I didn't know it was possible to label levers with a vanilla setting, and it's simple enough to have a lever room (with a good set of lockable doors) near each floodgate.

For example, here is the drain at the bottom of my hospital well cistern, with the lever that controls the floodgate:



Note the long corridor with lockable doors at either end, so that dorfs can't go in there mistakenly and empty the hospital well. Also note, that the lever quite obviously controls that floodgate, and only that floodgate.