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Tegga21

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Re: Dungeon Crawl 0.19 tournament: get on a Bay12 team!
« Reply #210 on: November 15, 2016, 03:37:27 am »

Please if anyone sees me trying to get my 3rd rune in abyss or slime, just come into my game and stop me.
bad ideas.  I've done it once successfully and lost several promising characters
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« Reply #211 on: November 15, 2016, 04:47:34 am »

Please if anyone sees me trying to get my 3rd rune in abyss or slime, just come into my game and stop me.
bad ideas.  I've done it once successfully and lost several promising characters
Adding onto Tegga's note--you do not want to catch yourself being surrounded in at least 6 tiles of an azure/death jelly, or one of the worse creatures in the Abyss--for a 3rd rune anyway (unsure as to your context of your character though). Because it's the familiarity of confidence that gets you, until you're nearly dying or spending too much on maintenance (potions, heals, etc).

Although I'm just posting here right out of context due to busyness x_x
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« Reply #212 on: November 15, 2016, 06:38:27 am »

Note to self:

If you accidentally enter a zig on U2 (I thought it was a trove, don't ask), and the first two floors had panlords, maybe the third floor will also have panlords, and they might kick your ass - just get out for Trog's sake.
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« Reply #213 on: November 15, 2016, 09:47:33 am »

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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.19.0-19-g8c6edcc (webtiles) character file.

             Killed from afar by an ice dragon (38 damage)
             ... with a blast of cold
             ... on level 14 of the Dungeon.

rFire  ++ .      SeeInvis .    a - +3 battleaxe
rCold  . . .      Gourm    .    X - +0 fire dragon scales
                                V - +2 ring of protection
                                u - ring of protection from cold
 U - the ring "Olesm" {rC+ MR+ Str+2 Stlth+, unknown}
   (You took it off a centaur warrior on level 14 of the Dungeon)   
 z - 3 scrolls of remove curse

Agree that at this stage, not wearing hat of alch was reasonable, and I see you just picked up this ring, but you nonetheless died to a blast of cold, with no rC, whilst carrying an unidentified source of quick-swappable rC and a rem curse scroll. Not to mention your awesome stack of blinking scrolls :)

That vault sounds sucky though. TBH, pre lair branches, I often try to avoid obvious vaults in D12-D15, they can be pretty hardcore.

The reason I didn't put the ring on was that it was a randart, meaning it could have contam, draining, etc, and I figured I'd just wait until I found an ID scroll.  I had just changed into that FDA, (FDS now I guess...) I also had literally just picked up that hat of the alch, although I wasn't planning to wear it anytime soon.

But what killed this character wasn't really the ice dragon, or even that insane vault.  What killed him was the painful grind that was the entire game up to that point.  To be honest, I think I was at a turning point there, and had I not tilted against that ice dragon I think things were about to really improve for that character, as I was finally sort of caught up on the power curve.  But when every single fight is difficult and you have to use emergency resources to save yourself constantly it does wear on you.

Too bad though, it was a streak breaker.  I don't think I have the right mindset to be able to get long streaks, my brain just gets lazy sometimes...
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« Reply #214 on: November 15, 2016, 10:10:28 am »

Please if anyone sees me trying to get my 3rd rune in abyss or slime, just come into my game and stop me.
bad ideas.  I've done it once successfully and lost several promising characters

Abyss isn't too bad with the right resistances (basically rN+/++), lots of sources of teleportation, and generally good stats. I've been banished and snagged the Abyss rune at XL 14-15 as my first rune. However, because of the risk associated with that I usually wait until after Vault:5, especially if I'm switch to TSO and need piety.

On the other hand, Slime is always one of my later runes (often post-tomb) because it requires lots of resistances (rCorr, rC++, possibly rF++ if you decide to use scrolls of immolation) and benefits from several buffs (speed, might, agility, whatever divine buffs you can get for melee). I usually don't have everything I need until later in the game.
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« Reply #215 on: November 15, 2016, 10:36:23 am »

How did you not have any ID scrolls? I'm usually swimming in the damn things. Enough to use them on bardings I pick up as non taur/naga characters, purely because I'm curious.

Did a trove ask for a shitload of them or something?

Nope.  Like I said, the RNG was extremely unkind to me in this game.  Did I mention the 3 75% success banishes I tried on that ice dragon that failed? (About a 1.5% chance to miss 3 75% chances in a row, it was just a continuation of my terrible luck.)
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« Reply #216 on: November 15, 2016, 12:07:34 pm »

Huh... I've now managed to clear both the Lair and the entire upper dungeon and I still don't have any rpois. I'm willing to hear any ideas about where I should go/what I should do next:
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Damiac

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« Reply #217 on: November 15, 2016, 01:22:55 pm »

I'd say go to snake and just take it slow, don't hang around those poison aura guys, quaff curing when poison gets bad, etc.

You could go right to shoals but honestly I'd rather start with snake with no rpois myself.

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« Reply #218 on: November 15, 2016, 01:27:36 pm »

Well the RNG felt bad about treating my poor little HoAk so poorly, so it's making up for it this time.

Halfling Skald, I expected a weak combo but... I don't know why, but I am cutting through everything like a hot knife through butter...

I came here to ask for advice regarding body armor.  Due to an early summoned Nexoquac (spelled wrong for sure) I got a couple bad muts.  I had 5 cure mut potions, so I figured I'd play mutation roulette!  Quaffed 4 mutation potions, had a few bad ones, quaffed cure mut and ended up with relec and wild magic.  Good enough!

But now I would like to get regen and spectral weapon usable.  I feel it's probably wise to swap out of the plate mail I'm wearing.  There's FDA available, and I have an rC buckler. Or, I could use an rF scale mail.

There's also some IDA available, but I really prefer rF to rC, even if it does come with 1 extra AC.

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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.19.0-19-g8c6edcc (webtiles) character file.

damiac the Warrior (Halfling Skald)                Turns: 60931, Time: 04:00:58

Health: 179/179    AC: 29    Str: 19    XL:     22   Next: 66%
Magic:  28/28      EV: 25    Int: 11    God:    Okawaru [******]
Gold:   336        SH:  9    Dex: 17    Spells: 5 memorised, 15 levels left

rFire  + . .      SeeInvis +    a - +6 demon blade (elec)
rCold  + + .      Gourm    .    w - +4 scale mail {rF+}
rNeg   . . .      Faith    .    p - +1 buckler {rC+}
rPois  .          Spirit   .    F - +2 helmet {SInv}
rElec  +          Reflect  .    Z - +2 cloak
rCorr  .          Harm     .    K - +2 pair of gloves
MR     ++...                    y - +2 pair of boots
Stlth  +.........               J - amulet of Vitality {Regen+ HP+15}
                                o - ring of protection from magic
                                t - ring "Poisoaq" {+Inv rC+}

@: no status effects
A: mutation resistance 1, electricity resistance, wild magic 1
a: Heroism, Finesse, Renounce Religion, Evoke Invisibility
}: 2/15 runes: decaying, serpentine


You are on level 2 of the Vaults.
You worship Okawaru.
Okawaru is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 7 branches of the dungeon, and seen 35 of its levels.

You have collected 4850 gold pieces.
You have spent 4514 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 a - a +6 demon blade of electrocution (weapon)
 b - a +0 hand crossbow of freezing
 v - a +0 dagger of electrocution
Missiles
 k - 662 bolts
 A - 79 tomahawks (quivered)
Armour
 p - a +1 buckler of cold resistance (worn)
 w - a +4 scale mail of fire resistance (worn)
 y - a +2 pair of boots (worn)
 F - a +2 helmet of see invisible (worn)
 H - +0 fire dragon scales
 K - a +2 pair of gloves (worn)
 V - a +3 plate armour of cold resistance
 X - a +1 buckler of protection
 Z - a +2 cloak (worn)
Rods
 W - a +4 rod of clouds (10/14)
   (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Orcish Mines)
Jewellery
 l - an uncursed ring of poison resistance
 o - a ring of protection from magic (right hand)
 r - an uncursed ring of protection from fire
 s - an uncursed ring of positive energy
 t - the ring "Poisoaq" (left hand) {+Inv rC+}
   (You found it on level 5 of the Dungeon)   
   
   [ring of protection from cold]
   
   It protects you from cold.
   It lets you turn invisible.
 C - the amulet "Surutriz" {Gourm rElec Str+2 Int-4 Slay+3}
   (You found it on level 4 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   [amulet of the gourmand]
   
   It allows you to eat raw meat even when not hungry.
   It affects your strength (+2).
   It affects your intelligence (-4).
   It affects your accuracy and damage with ranged weapons and melee attacks
   (+3).
   It insulates you from electricity.
 I - an uncursed ring of flight
 J - the amulet of Vitality (around neck) {Regen+ HP+15}
   (You found it on level 4 of the Snake Pit)   
   
   [amulet of regeneration]
   
   It affects your health (+15).
   It increases your rate of regeneration.
 N - the ring "Wunlous" {Fire Slay+3}
   (You found it on level 12 of the Dungeon)   
   
   [ring of fire]
   
   It enhances your fire magic.
   It affects your accuracy and damage with ranged weapons and melee attacks
   (+3).
   It protects you from fire.
   It makes you vulnerable to cold.
Wands
 i - a wand of hasting (1/9)
 Q - a wand of teleportation (3/9)
 S - a wand of paralysis {zapped: 6}
 Y - a wand of digging (9/24)
Scrolls
 c - 4 scrolls of fear
 e - 3 scrolls of identify
 g - 8 scrolls of teleportation
 j - 4 scrolls of magic mapping
 n - 10 scrolls of remove curse
 x - 2 scrolls of silence
 z - a scroll of enchant armour
 G - 5 scrolls of fog
 M - a scroll of blinking
 U - 5 scrolls of recharging
Potions
 f - 12 potions of curing
 h - a potion of berserk rage
 m - a potion of agility
 B - 3 potions of cure mutation
 E - a potion of cancellation
 O - a potion of resistance
 P - a potion of haste
 T - 3 potions of might
Miscellaneous
 u - a lamp of fire
 D - a fan of gales
 L - a sack of spiders
 R - a box of beasts
Comestibles
 d - 19 bread rations
 q - 11 slices of pizza


   Skills:
 * Level 17.7 Fighting
 - Level 14.3 Long Blades
 - Level 12.0 Crossbows
 + Level 15.9 Armour
 + Level 16.9 Dodging
 - Level 4.0 Stealth
 - Level 11.1 Shields
 + Level 2.5 Spellcasting
 - Level 13.2 Charms
 + Level 2.1 Necromancy
 - Level 8.9 Invocations
 + Level 7.0 Evocations


You have 15 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Infusion              Chrm           ####         1%          1    ##.....
b - Shroud of Golubria    Chrm/Tloc      ###.......   12%         2    ###....
c - Regeneration          Chrm/Necr      ###.......   14%         3    ####...
d - Spectral Weapon       Hex/Chrm       ###.....     21%         3    ####...
e - Repel Missiles        Chrm/Air       ###...       12%         2    ###....


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)            Temple (1/1) D:7            Lair (6/6) D:11
  Swamp (4/4) Lair:2        Snake (4/4) Lair:3        Slime (0/5) Lair:5
    Orc (2/2) D:10            Elf (0/3) Orc:2        Vaults (3/5) D:13
 Depths (0/5) D:15       
 Crypt: Vaults:2-3 

Altars:
Ashenzari
Fedhas
Hepliaklqana
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Uskayaw
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh

Shops:
D:10 }   D:12 *   Orc:2 }[:*   Snake:4 (   Vaults:3 [

Annotations:
D:3 Kalaber's ghost, amateur TrMo
D:5 gribnar's ghost, amateur GrFi


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are small and have problems with some larger weapons.
You are somewhat resistant to further mutation.
You are resistant to electric shocks. (rElec)
Your spells are a little harder to cast, but a little more powerful.
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« Reply #219 on: November 16, 2016, 12:56:02 am »

I feel like I've ended my career in this nice character just because I was dum :I


 :'(
I mean I feel like I'll still live--having had this experience before in a Ziggurat (bloody entropy weavers corroding me and letting me nearly die versus spiders :I)
BUT this time I've got no heal potions or movement things. :-[

That said, I remember Hepl having a 'weapon choice' for the Knight--I don't see it other than having a broad axe of flame at XL 15, and further on it gets a speed ego with a reflection shield. Said knight however, is ded in this scenario. I:
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« Reply #220 on: November 16, 2016, 03:24:31 am »

I feel like I've ended my career in this nice character just because I was dum :I


 :'(
I mean I feel like I'll still live--having had this experience before in a Ziggurat (bloody entropy weavers corroding me and letting me nearly die versus spiders :I)
BUT this time I've got no heal potions or movement things. :-[

That said, I remember Hepl having a 'weapon choice' for the Knight--I don't see it other than having a broad axe of flame at XL 15, and further on it gets a speed ego with a reflection shield. Said knight however, is ded in this scenario. I:

how did you end up in this position you should never fight a debuffing monster in a spot where you can't move directly away X O is bad should always be like
- O -
X - -
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« Reply #221 on: November 16, 2016, 03:47:16 am »

how did you end up in this position you should never fight a debuffing monster in a spot where you can't move directly away X O is bad should always be like
- O -
X - -
- - -
To my great shame and embarrassment, it's overconfidence (and that I had, like, 50~hp and chose to smack it and it hit me down to that :V I forgot how life is with lower AC, despite having experience with it before).

So...yeah. I'll just try digging my way out and then report back >.<
 :-[

Edit: Got stab'd. Gah.
Take 2 with Formicids :I
« Last Edit: November 16, 2016, 04:04:28 am by Tiruin »
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« Reply #222 on: November 16, 2016, 08:28:10 am »

Well my poor little HaSk didn't survive his entrance into Zot.  I mean... damn that entry vault was ridiculous.

Moths of wrath, tentacled monstrosities, golden dragons, death cobs, and lots of draconians.  Basically come down the stairs, get grabbed by tentacles, get slowed by death cobs, get beat up by berserk draconians, and get pushed off the stairs by berserk golden dragons.

It doesn't exactly seem fair.  But of course, you can teleport in that situation!

Only now teleports in zot take like 25 turns...

Seriously, this was ridiculous.  Really good character up to that point destroyed by a cheap ass entry vault.  Maybe it was reasonable when you could teleport and blink normally in zot.
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« Reply #223 on: November 16, 2016, 09:22:43 am »

I have the worst luck :I
Make a new formicid, and everything goes fine. Then I get shafted for 2 floors--ok that's normal, happens about every 2 games or so.
Then I meet Rupert, OK he's a bit faster than me, throwing nets away! Then I run around trying to find an upstairs, since digging takes too long (and I really want banners so no using scrolls or potions >_>).

Then I open a door...
All the walls! :'(
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« Reply #224 on: November 16, 2016, 12:25:05 pm »

So, the old promising character died (of course.) Protip: if you've been building your character around monsters taking major damage from your spines, going into a branch where everything wields spears is bad.

So my new guy prays at an unknown altar (because that's just how I roll), and gets Ru (I'll get Jivya one of these days.) Fine. First pick comes up: -Mr, can't read scrolls, or lose a hand. I pick -Mr, because the other two sound horrible. So what do I run into? Sigmond, who immediately casts confuse on me; and a player ghost of a SpEn, who also immediately casts confuse on me. Arg!
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