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[Frumple]

Oh hey it --

... well shit. Started back up and the 15 one's already out entirely. That's... frustrating. Backed the other one for the lowest that came with game, now I can't for this'un. Can't really justify that extra few bucks, either, since I probably shouldn't have backed the first kickstart to begin with disposable funds wise, heh. Guess I'll be waiting a long while for a sale

[Aklyon]

First one didn't charge you frumple, it got cancelled.

[Frumple]

Oh aye, I know. Just couldn't get in on the second for the same price, and on a slim enough budget I can't really justify even the little bit extra.

[Tegga21]

Oh aye, I know. Just couldn't get in on the second for the same price, and on a slim enough budget I can't really justify even the little bit extra.

AI war is hundreds of hours of fun. Whats an extra 10 for a great niche company

[Neonivek]

Yep they succeeded they just had to quarter their expectations and remove large swaths of desired content to do it.

But ehhh, whatever you need to do.

Edit: No, I am not complaining. It is just less of a "Glorious triumph" given they have about the same funding as the their first attempt... They just moved their goalposts back really far.

[Aklyon]

No one was really considering it a glorious triumph though, neon. The second KS is pretty much just 'well, we can't fund the whole thing. Lets fund what we know we can instead.'

[Draco18s]

Oh aye, I know. Just couldn't get in on the second for the same price, and on a slim enough budget I can't really justify even the little bit extra.

AI war is hundreds of hours of fun. Whats an extra 10 for a great niche company

His problem is not "Arcen is cutting back" but he "has no money."

[bulborbish]

Oh hey it --

... well shit. Started back up and the 15 one's already out entirely. That's... frustrating. Backed the other one for the lowest that came with game, now I can't for this'un. Can't really justify that extra few bucks, either, since I probably shouldn't have backed the first kickstart to begin with disposable funds wise, heh. Guess I'll be waiting a long while for a sale

They added 500 more, so there is room for you to back and get one now.

[LoSboccacc]

They added 500 more, so there is room for you to back and get one now.

That's very scummy of them. Gonna check if I can cancel. I don't like being fucked like this. Hope more people notice.

Edit: you can go back and downgrade the pledge. Went from 2 copy at 40$ to one at 16$ - there's a change pledge feature avaiable so you can all get the early bird retroactively.

Still, fuck them.

[Shadowlord]

Eh, they probably saw the demand for it and added more to accommodate it. I don't see the problem here in giving you the opportunity to pay less.

[Retropunch]

They added 500 more, so there is room for you to back and get one now.

That's very scummy of them. Gonna check if I can cancel. I don't like being fucked like this. Hope more people notice.

Edit: you can go back and downgrade the pledge. Went from 2 copy at 40$ to one at 16$ - there's a change pledge feature avaiable so you can all get the early bird retroactively.

Still, fuck them.

Yeah I mean...I don't understand this at all. It's not like they said 'oh this is a super exclusive book/vinyl/whatever of which only 20 will ever be made!' and then said 'oh wait now we're releasing 20,000 of then' - it's a digital product which they can release as many as they want with.

More than that, as Shadowlord said, they probably didn't realise there would be such a demand at that level. Some kickstarters work with people just choosing other pledges levels that are above or below what they want, but it might have been that they got a lot of people emailing in/whatever about wanting that specific pledge level.

I wouldn't say it's 'fucking you'.

[Frumple]

AI war is hundreds of hours of fun. Whats an extra 10 for a great niche company

Draco got it, but the answer is three to five days of food, or 1-3 days of gas costs, or somewhere between a half and an eighth of a doctor visit, or any number of other things :V

Four would be less, obviously enough, but it's still a couple days of not!hungry, enough gas to get to somewhere it's cheaper (with a bit left over to spend there), etc., etc. But it's the difference of between an extra ~1/20th of my disposable funds and ~1/50th, either way. Can manage to ignore conscientiousness sufficiently without that extra, but it's a close thing.

... plus I've honestly sunk more cash into arcen over the years than I should have, heh. Got a few of their games I don't even particularly like (skyward collapse, valleys, probably a couple others I've forgotten I have), just 'cause I wanted to give them money.

[Aklyon]

You're getting exactly the same thing in the end, whether you paid $16 or some higher amount. How exactly is it scummy to address demand for more of part of their KS when it is still ongoing?

its not like they let people get the same reward for the same price post-KS or something.

[Draco18s]

Yeah, I don't get it either.
Lots of Kickstarters do this, they set up an initial limitation because that's as many as they can support, and if they see a demade for it, they'll reevaluate.

[LoSboccacc]

This being a kickstarter sounds more like "thanks loyal supporter for the money to create a game! But your support will now go to make a discount to a few lucky guy instead of being put in the actual game you supported"

The game will be 4$*500 worse because of this. Or in another way this could have moved instead a stretch goal lower, actually working in favor of the game I'm gonna play instead of being pocketed by few. As a backer watching funds not working toward development worries and upset me greatly.