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[Maegil]

Or we could just sell licenses for other companies to produce them and make use of the fees and royalties. We don't really want to get bogged down doing something as pedestrian as running a company when we could be doing science, after all.

+1 for this

Try to create an energy adapter to license off as well, and maybe make note of a lawyer that deals with patent law nearby, if the worst case scenario comes around.

+1, but patent troll companies work by crushing the patent holders under legal fees until they buckle. They don't need to have a proper case, just that the holder is crushable.

[RAM]

Save one of the scorpion-foods and hook some electronics into its nerve-centre, sensory parts, and mobility parts. Kill it gently if possible, but it needs to be fresh. With any luck we can incorporate the biological components in order to bypass the hurdles of advanced robotics. Another way of looking at this is battery-powered zombies, but that is not the point of the exercise, this is purely robotics, and the abbreviation B.P.Z. is clearly unrelated and actually refers to, umm, something else?

[andrea]

selling licenses is probably the best way to go.
as home power sources, they would only be fancy batteries. Cheap to buy, sure, but then you need to resupply them with hydrogen and oxygen. unless we are breaking conservation of energy already, I doubt it would have that much of a market.

for vehicles and similar it would be amazing.  But to make them viable we would need an hydrogen/oxygen supply network.

Licenses, fees and royalties however don't require a massive involvment on our part.

[stabbymcstabstab]

We could design a device that separate the H20 of water to fuel it. Then we don't need a hard to build supply network.

Also how about offer it to the government? They'll love something like this and probably give us a nice lab to keep it advancing.

[Maegil]

We could design a device that separate the H20 of water to fuel it. Then we don't need a hard to build supply network.

Sure, all you need is power. That, and survive the oil cartel assassins.

Also how about offer it to the government? They'll love something like this and probably give us a nice lab to keep it advancing.

The oil cartel lobby would never allow that...

Really, the best would license it and let them deal with all the logistics. Besides, the oil cartel can disappear one person but not and organization - or at least not as easily.

[S34N1C]

Also how about offer it to the government? They'll love something like this and probably give us a nice lab to keep it advancing.

Yes, but then that's all we would be allowed to do. They'd want us to work on it all day, every day

[KiwiOui]

Build a second Mk4 cell, and fit it into the 'Tickle Baton'.
Dub the Mk4 the 'Energ-E'.

[RAM]

Would the MK4 fit onto the baton and leave it wieldy? Perhaps the tickle-baton could have a power-source in an arm-guard... Perhaps the arm-guard could have a visual display and scan for nearby motion by using lasers to detect vibration on surrounding structures and depict it as some sort of sonar-pulse display...

[The Froggy Ninja]

Can we ball park how much power scaling up the tech to room sized would give if we used the indefinite lifespan version but keep the rest the same?

[Chiefwaffles]

October 26, 2016

When you wake up this morning you do the usual theoretical invention stuff that you always do.
The idea regarding combining different parts of the various fuel cells is impossible. As in, actually impossible - not the usual "possible with a million dollars" stuff you come up with. There is no "fuel efficiency module" stuck in the Long Count design - it's simply the way it is. The same aspects of the design that give it its size and fuel efficiency are the aspects that give it its horrendous power output.
Improving your existing ones is fine, but you can't just mix and match old ones. Every design is a unique one where every part of it comes together to make it what it is.

Now, a shock baton powered by a MK4 cell is not the most practical idea. Technically, it is possible and wouldn't be useless, but the fuel cell is around the same size as the baton and is too thick to be incorporated into the handle. So your current theoretical design for the upgraded baton involves the MK4 attached by the bottom, which is unsurprisingly very unwieldy. You decide not to bother with making another MK4 with this since it ultimately wouldn't be useful.

And then there's the water separation part.
Sadly that's the most impossible idea. Unless you feel like discovering how to break the first law of Thermodynamics, you're not going to be getting away with that any time soon.
You create energy via the combination of oxygen and hydrogen to make water. This combination releases energy in the reaction. So naturally, you're going to need to add energy to separate water. The process in itself is possible, but no matter how efficient you tried making it, you'd end up losing energy with a Fuel Cell and water separation device. The device takes a bit more energy than is needed to separate the water, and the fuel cell makes a bit less energy than is generated combining the water.
Note to self: Revisit idea once first law of thermodynamics is broken.


Okay, licenses. This is also tricky because you're a scientist, not a businessman, damnit!
You put up a listing online to sell licenses. No one contacts you because apparently no one on craigslist online is a corporation wanting to manufacture energy cells. So after scratching that idea out, you try to think of how to continue.
You have no actionable idea at the moment, sadly. You can't just auction off the licenses when you're an "uneducated" man sitting in "his" "garage". You'd need to directly approach someone who has the potential of being interested.

You harvested 2 ml of venom, selling all 2 ml for the usual $40.
You got $60 at your new part-time job.

Spoiler: You (click to show/hide)

Cash: $242
Housing: Trashy Garage
Holdings:
Structures

• Makeshift Data Terminal
• Hydrogen Fuel Cell MK3
• Basic Chemistry Equipment (Flasks, Tubing, Beakers, Safety Equipment, Bunsen Burner,  Measuring Equipment, Droppers etc.)
  
  • Peltier Heat Pump (Cooling Device)
• Makeshift Terrarium [2 Deadly Scorpions]
• Roach Trap [Feeding 2/3 scorpions]

Tools & Equipment

• Cheap Welder
• Handheld Drill
• Shovel
• Glass Cutter
• Stinger-resistant Gloves
• Protective Work Gear - Boots, Gloves, Painter's Equipment, Goggles, Respirator
• Basic Chemicals (Used for experiments; doesn't require replenishment)

Creatures - See "Creatures" spoiler.
Miscellaneous Creations

• Microwave Area Jammer
• Battery-less Buggy
• 6 ml Powdered Venom
• 1 ml Lasting Venom (Expires in: 2 days)

Items and Materials

• 1 ml Nitroglycerin
• 4x Scrap Metal
• 6x Electronics
• 1x Scrap Electronics
• 1x Plumbing Parts
• 1x Gas-filled Fire Extinguisher
• 2x Regular Computer Parts
• 3x Old Phones

Weapons

• Shock Baton
• 1x Glock 20

Ammunition

• 1x 10mm Magazine - 17/17
• 1x 10mm Magazine - 11/17

Miscellaneous Items

• Fake University Scientist ID
• Fake Military Scientist ID
• Fake Government Scientist ID

Spoiler: Creatures (click to show/hide)

Makeshift Terrarrium
Scorpions

• [F] Nineteen (Fed by Roach Trap) ("Pregnant" until Nov. 5th, 2016)[Maze Navigation][Stingerpainting]
• [M] Eighty-four (Fed by Roach Trap) [Maze Navigation][Stingerpainting]

Makeshift Data Terminal

Spoiler: Makeshift Data Terminal (click to show/hide)

Speed: Very Slow
Hardware
Core - Regular/Basic
Display - 14-inch CRT Display
Extras

• 3x USB 3.1 Type-C ports
• Basic Internet Connection

Software

• Data Entry
• Programming/Script Creator

Spoiler: Contacts (click to show/hide)

• Gang Kids (Via Parents)
• Gang Boss
• Modern Art Dealer

Spoiler: Experiments & Inventions (click to show/hide)

• Hydrogen Fuel Cell MK4 - "Energ-E" (Patented): A hydrogen fuel cell identical to the MK3 in power output and fuel usage, but takes the form of a small cylinder 3 inches in diameter with a height matching about a foot. Can be easily inserted/removed from objects and hot-swapped in addition to being used like an engine similar to the previous Fuel Cells. Utilizes the Hydrogen Fuel Cell Catalyst. Costs $170 to make.
• Hydrogen Fuel Cell MK3: A hydrogen fuel cell that's very roughly about half a meter in length, height, and width. Lasts a day once fully fueled and can provide a fairly large amount of power - a bit more than is needed to run a regular consumer car. Utilizes the Hydrogen Fuel Cell Catalyst. Costs $170 to make.
• Shock Baton: A police baton intended to double as a melee taser device. Only delivers 10 'charges' when fully charged. Actual shocking component is completely useless.
• Hydrogen Fuel Cell MK2: A hydrogen fuel cell that's very roughly about half a meter in length, height, and width. Lasts a month once fueled. Outputs very little power. Costs $150 to make.
• Hydrogen Fuel Cell Catalyst: A chemical compound that speeds up the electrolysis process in fuel cells. Should increase power output at the cost of fuel usage. Costs $20. (Price is added onto the price to create a fuel cell utilizing catalyst)
• Hydrogen Fuel Cell MK1 - "The Long Count": A very large hydrogen fuel cell that takes in hydrogen and oxygen to output power. Once fueled, can continue running for years. Outputs very little power. Is extremely large. Costs $150 to make.
• Antivenom: Antivenom neutralizing venom that can be made in a lab. Requires 1 ml of Venom and $40 for 2 ml of Antivenom.
• QuadChopper: A Quadcopter with dual knives and a wi-fi camera that can reliabily kill or maim a person. Requires other device to control+see camera feed; Needs wi-fi connection
• Microwave Area Jammer: A jammer that jams wireless functions in the affected area (Effect can be aimed via a satellite dish). Lasts 2 hours on a charge. Only jams 5m in front of dish.
• Buggy: A buggy. Tiny single-person open-ended low-to-the-ground vehicle. Runs two and a half hours on a single charge of its battery. Top speed is 15 mph.
• Medical Chemicals: Theoretical combination of chemicals that could increase healing in affected area by 300%. Name needs work.
• SPCAAD Ammonia Grenade: A makeshift ammonia grenade that disperses ammonia on impact via the glass container shattering. Effective blast site measures 28 meters in diameter.
• Powdered Venom: Scorpion venom in powder form that lasts forever without expiration. Poses no threat to organisms and can't naturally turn into liquiid form.
• Lasting Venom: Scorpion venom that lasts for 2 weeks while remaining just as potent. Requires 1 ml of Venom and $10 to make 1 ml of Lasting Venom.
• Handheld Microwave Jammer: A handheld (makeshift) gun that disrupts communications in the area it's pointed at. Can also cook food like a microwave if close enough and you really wanted to cook food. Needs to be plugged in.
• Venom Bullet: A bullet that will 'inject' scorpion venom into the victim. Venom expires after 2 days in the bullet.
• Butane Cannon: A projectile cannon that operates off of butane to propel the projectile roughly 40 meters away.
• Makeshift Data Terminal: A rudimentary terminal that accepts and stores data.

[S34N1C]

Build a small remote control robot using the MK4 as a power source. https://goo.gl/images/x42F61 Similar to what I'm looking for.

[RAM]

Get a laser and camera and computer and build something that can magically tell the distance(from the point at which the laser strikes it) of any impacts on a rigid structure by measuring the vibrations of the structure. Actually, use three lasers and triangulate.

[Kassire]

Call some nearby offices of energy companies and such that might be interested in our invention on a payphone or something, likely making a list of possible companies from a bit of research online. Walk into the offices if need be. Making some notes and such of it's qualities without giving away any design details would be beneficial in the endeavor as well.

[vkiNm]

Guys,

what we need to do is contact Google.

Google's always up for buying cool shit.

We make cool shit.

Let's sell cool shit to Google.

[RAM]

But... they are Evil... We should avoid working too closely with rivals...