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Asin

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This may sound strange, but....
« on: September 24, 2016, 10:23:28 pm »

I desire to know what the community thinks certain alcoholic drinks would taste and look like, such as sunshine, sewer brew, the "dwarven" set (dwarven wine, dwarven beer, dwarven ale, and dwarven rum), whip wine, and banana beer. So would you be a good guy and help this lone guy figure out about these oh so strange brews?
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Re: This may sound strange, but....
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2016, 11:56:58 pm »

Dwarven wine is made from a mushroom. Mushrooms do not photosynthesize, so they do not "make" sugars. However they do produce enzymes that can break down complex carbohydrates into simple sugars. Some species sequester these simple saccharides (sweet tasting compounds) inside their flesh. For instance, one species of truffle from Hungary is said to taste sweet like honey.  I do not think that there is a really good direct analog to plump helmets in the real world. 

Being made from a mushroom, I expect an above average protein content, and a dark brown color, rather than purple, after fermentation. I would expect it to have a kind of "meaty" taste (strong "Umami" flavor.)

Dwarven rum, made from sweetpods, is likely to taste a fair bit like normal rum, but the fact that it is not a distilled alcohol means it would be more like dark rum, with lots of plant flavinols present. I would expect it to be similar to the "Beer" created by many ethnic populations, created from the sugars found in the seed pods of various species of legume trees.  I expect that the part that is brewed is the pod itself, which would explain why the seeds are not used up in the reaction. Many species of legume produce a sticky syrup or jelly like substance around the seeds inside the pod, such as that of Tamarinds, and Honey Locusts.

Banana beer is probably quite possible. Bananas contain a LOT of starch. The yeast that produces beer would break down that starch, and turn it first into simple sugars, and then into alcohol. Again, the flavinols of the plant matter would be present. I would expect a light amber color, with a strong banana flavor.

Whip vine is also its own thing. Without knowing more, I cant really guess too much about flavor.  Personally, I would expect a clear liquor, and my imagination suggests something slightly cucumber flavored, or perhaps asian melon flavored.

Dwarven beer is likely to taste like any other beer. Especially if the cave wheat has a low protein content.
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Re: This may sound strange, but....
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2016, 12:13:51 am »

Okay, but what about sewer brew and sunshine?

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Re: This may sound strange, but....
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2016, 12:20:18 am »

Oh, and I almost forgot about swamp whiskey.

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Re: This may sound strange, but....
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2016, 03:21:48 am »

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Ingredient Beverage Produced Beverage Value Type Source
Plump helmet   Dwarven Wine 2 Plant-based Indoors
Pig tail   Dwarven Ale 2 Indoors
Cave wheat   Dwarven Beer 2 Indoors
Sweet pod   Dwarven Rum 2 Indoors
Muck root      Swamp Whiskey 1 Outdoors
Bloated tuber   Tuber Beer 2 Outdoors
Prickle berry   Prickle Berry Wine 1 Outdoors
Longland grass   Longland Beer 2 Outdoors
Rat weed   Sewer Brew 1 Outdoors
Fisher berry   Fisher Berry Wine 2 Outdoors
Rope reed      River Spirits 2 Outdoors
Sliver barb   Gutter Cruor 1 Outdoors
Sun berry   Sunshine 5 Outdoors
Whip vine   Whip Wine 3 Outdoors
Beet           Beetroot Wine 2 Outdoors
Wild carrot   Carrot Wine 2 Outdoors
Cassava   Cassava Beer 2 Outdoors
Parsnip   Parsnip Wine 2 Outdoors
Potato           Potato Wine 2 Outdoors
Radish           Radish Wine 2 Outdoors
Sweet potato   Sweet Potato Wine 2 Outdoors
Turnip           Turnip Wine 2 Outdoors
1-G wheat   Single-grain Wheat Beer 2 Outdoors
2-G wheat         Two-grain Wheat Beer 2 Outdoors
Soft wheat   Soft Wheat Beer 2 Outdoors
Hard wheat   Hard Wheat Beer 2 Outdoors
Spelt           Spelt Beer 2 Outdoors
Barley           Barley Wine 2 Outdoors
Buckwheat   Buckwheat Beer 2 Outdoors
Rye           Rye Beer 2 Outdoors
Sorghum   Sorghum Beer 2 Outdoors
Rice   Rice Beer 2 Outdoors
Maize           Maize Beer 2 Outdoors
Quinoa           Quinoa Beer 2 Outdoors
Kaniwa           Kaniwa Beer 2 Outdoors
Pendant amaranth  Pendant Amaranth Beer 2 Outdoors
Blood amaranth    Blood Amaranth Beer 2 Outdoors
Purple amaranth   Purple Amaranth Beer 2 Outdoors
Pearl millet   Pearl Millet Beer 2 Outdoors
White millet   White Millet Beer 2 Outdoors
Finger millet   Finger Millet Beer 2 Outdoors
Foxtail millet   Foxtail Millet Beer 2 Outdoors
Fonio           Fonio Beer 2 Outdoors
Teff           Teff Beer 2 Outdoors
Apple           Apple Cider 2 Fruit-based Outdoors
Apricot   Apricot Wine 2 Outdoors
Banana           Banana Beer 2 Outdoors
Bayberry   Bayberry Wine 2 Outdoors
Carambola   Carambola Wine 2 Outdoors
Cherry           Cherry Wine 2 Outdoors
Custard-apple   Custard Apple Cider 2 Outdoors
Date              Date Wine 2 Outdoors
Durian           Durian Wine
Guava           Guava Wine
Lychee           Lychee Wine
Mango           Mango Wine
Papaya           Papaya Wine
Peach           Peach Cider
Pear           Perry
Persimmon   Persimmon Wine
Plum           Plum Wine
Pomegranate   Pomegranate Wine
Rambutan      Rambutan Wine
Sand pear      Sand Pear Cider
Artichoke   Artichoke Wine
Tomato           Tomato Wine
Tomatillo   Tomatillo Wine
Passion fruit   Passion Fruit Wine
Grape           Wine
Cranberry   Cranberry Wine
Bilberry   Bilberry Wine
Blueberry   Blueberry Wine
Blackberry   Blackberry Wine
Raspberry      Raspberry Wine
Pineapple   Pineapple Wine
Strawberry   Strawberry Wine
Honey           Mead

For reference.
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Re: This may sound strange, but....
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2016, 05:22:49 pm »

Oh yeah! And longland beer.

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Re: This may sound strange, but....
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2016, 07:20:42 am »

Humans are almost as fond of alcohol as dwarfs so just google any of those real world ingredients followed by wine or beer. Chances are someone somewhere has made some somewhere, either as an experiment, joke or just due to desperation.

"Mushroom Wine
    What? A mushroom wine. Brilliant clear yellow. It tastes almost like a conventional white wine made from grapes.
How? Cook & liquidise 1 kg of normal edible mushrooms until they are rendered down to a blackish slimy mass. Put it in the demijohn, add water & follow the basic recipe.
    Why? After finding some people unexpectedly liked the chocolate wine, I was determined to make a really outrageous wine. Mushrooms were selling very cheap in the local market so I made a mushroom wine expecting it to be foul black in colour and musty tasting. I was surprised when it came out a clear elegant yellow and not very bad flavoured. I've even had a friend who did not notice this wine was not a normal white grape wine until told."
http://duramecho.com/Food/NoveltyWines.html
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Re: This may sound strange, but....
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2016, 02:06:33 pm »

Huh. I always thought of mushroom wine as some sort of vodka. Chop up some 'shrooms, let them rot up a bit and burn out the alcohol out of the mash. I think the wine part led me astray, made me think of burnt wine, which basically is vodka. I'd never thought you could make actual -wine- from the stuff.

Thanks for the link, Purdurabo, I might've found myself a new hobby.
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Re: This may sound strange, but....
« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2016, 03:36:29 pm »

Huh. I always thought of mushroom wine as some sort of vodka. Chop up some 'shrooms, let them rot up a bit and burn out the alcohol out of the mash. I think the wine part led me astray, made me think of burnt wine, which basically is vodka. I'd never thought you could make actual -wine- from the stuff.

Thanks for the link, Purdurabo, I might've found myself a new hobby.
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Re: This may sound strange, but....
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2016, 06:30:05 pm »

I am really curious about sunshine (the booze). It obviously cannot be real because it is made from sun berries which have an inner light. What would that be like? Would the drink glow?

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Re: This may sound strange, but....
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2016, 08:24:10 pm »

How? Cook & liquidise 1 kg of normal edible mushrooms until they are rendered down to a blackish slimy mass. Put it in the demijohn, add water & follow the basic recipe.
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http://duramecho.com/Food/NoveltyWines.html
The basic recipe in question calls for (dwarven) sugar.
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Re: This may sound strange, but....
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2016, 08:55:49 pm »

the truffle i pointed out might contain sufficient sugars to brew without sugar.

I do wonder about brewing shitake mushrooms this way though.  those have a floral bouquet, and might be interesting.
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Re: This may sound strange, but....
« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2016, 11:17:51 am »

I would expect it to have a kind of "meaty" taste (strong "Umami" flavor.)
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Re: This may sound strange, but....
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2017, 08:41:00 pm »

Hello?
I am curious on sunshine's look and flavor.

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Re: This may sound strange, but....
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2017, 10:53:21 pm »

Sunshine tastes like Sunny D, obviously.

Or perhaps it tastes like a ray of sun? Ambrosia-like to the point where it simply cannot be imagined. I guess we'll never know what it tastes like.
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