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[GiglameshDespair]

OK, so I've decided I might go for a mutant creation of a heretek magos biologis, who took the place of their creator.

I too am curious about the choosing process.

[Criptfeind]

Maybe I should go for flamer just cuz I'm going to need it to purify the other players.

[GiglameshDespair]

Ok, so:

Spoiler: Magos Biologis heretek, completed (click to show/hide)

Name: Sierra-Beta

Homeworld: Forge World (-5WS, +5Int, Credo Omnisiah, Fit for Purpose (+3int), Stranger to the Cult)
Birthright: False-man (autosanguine, chem-geld, ambidexterous, +3BS, +3T, -3Fel, +2d10 Insan)
Lure of the void: Tainted -Mutant (rolled for it, got necrophage [+10T, regeneration, must consume large amounts of raw meat.)
Trails and Travails: Hand of War: Heavy Weapon Training (Las), Hatred (mutant), Face of the Enemy (mutant)
Motivation: Prestige ( Talented (Tech-use))
Career: Explorator

Spoiler: Stats (click to show/hide)

Point buy.

WS: 25 -5=20
BS: 25+3 +18=41
S: 25 +5 =30
T: 25+10+3 +17=50
Ag: 25 +10=35
Int: 25+5+3+20 =53
Per: 25 +10 = 30
WP: 25+20=45
Fel: 25-3=22

Starting wounds: 15
Rolled a 4

Fate: 3
Rolled a 7

Insanity: 10
Rolled 6 and 4

Corruption: 0

Spoiler: XP (click to show/hide)

Total: 4900 xp spent
100 spare

4500 xp starts as spent.
200xp - false-man
200xp on good MIU

Spoiler: Skills (click to show/hide)

Common Lore (Tech)+10 (Int) (x2)
Common Lore (Machine Cult)+10 (Int) (x2)
Forbidden Lore (Archeotech, Adeptus Mechanicus) (Int),
Literacy (Int),
Logic (Int),
Speak Language (Explorator Binary, Low Gothic, Techna-lingua) (Int),
Tech-Use (Int), (+10 talented)
Trade (Technomat) (Int).

Spoiler: Traits (click to show/hide)

Regeneration: at the start of its turn the creature tests Toughness to remove 1 point of damage. It loses this Trait when slain.
Mechanicus Implants: Listed in Implants

Spoiler: Talents (click to show/hide)

Technical Knock
Basic Weapon Training (Universal),
Melee Weapon Training (Universal),
Heavy Weapon Training (
Talented (Tech-use)
Stranger to the Cult
Face of the Enemy (mutants)
Hatred (mutants)
Autosanguine: Always lightly wounded, heals 2 wounds a day
Chem-geld: cannot be seduced, charm attempts against +1 difficulty level
Ambidextrous


Iron Jaw: Toughness test to avoid stunning
Bulging biceps: weapons always braced

Spoiler: Implants (click to show/hide)

Logis Implant: +10 bonus on WS and BS on successful Tech-Use Test.
Electro-graft: +10 bonus to Common Lore, Inquiry, or Tech-Use Tests whilst connected to a data port.
Electoo Inductors
Respirator Unit: granting a +20% bonus to resist airborne toxins and gas weapons.
Cyber-mantle
Potentia Coil
Cranial Circuitry

Blackbone bracing (+2 dam unarmed, iron jaw, bulging biceps)
Good-MIU (

Spoiler: Equipment (click to show/hide)

Good Lascannon
Good Hellgun (Lucius) Basic 110m S/3/– 1d10+4 E 7 30 2 Full 6 Rare, reliable
Good Power Axe (Mezoa) Melee — 1d10+7 E 7 Power Field, Unbalanced 6 Very Rare
Enforcer Light Carapace All 5 15 Rare
multikey,
void suit,
injector,
sacred unguents,
micro-bead,
combi-tool,
dataslate.

Spoiler: Familiars (click to show/hide)

Servo-skull with auspex, +20 to tech-use

Spoiler: Description (click to show/hide)

A tall, thin woman, swaddled in red cloth. What can be seen of her is remarkably human looking  - what can be seen of the face, the exposed forearms and hands, are all flawless alabaster flesh. Her eyes are a startling green. Her mouth and nose are covered by a delicate-looking bronze mask, shaped like a bird beak. The beak can open, exposing razor-blade like teeth set at regular intervals. Instead of hair, bronze cables sprout from her skull like dreadlocks. These are her skulljacks she uses to interface with machinery.

Spoiler: Backstory (click to show/hide)

The experiment, one of many 'sisters', was created in a space station. The station had grown on the side of a planetoid like a metal tumour, a grinding, smoking bubo dedicated to industry and technology, and controlled by the Mechanicus.
The station had long been out of contact with the greater Imperium as a whole, producing endless amounts of ship parts to be stored in hollowed asteroids, ready for trading for the rogue traders who formed the only major contact they had. With the long separation between the station Mechanicus and Mars, the science on board had... grown, somewhat.

That forbidden action, innovation and experimentation, had begun within the walls of the station. A magos biologis of the name of Sierra-4z2q-Gamma had begun to experiment with false-men - clones. Unlike the mindless servitors she'd grown before, she made life able to think and learn, shaped after her own image, perhaps.
One of these was the experiment.
It was freed from it's tank, and began to learn. Sierra-4z2q taught it like a disciple, testing the limits of its intelligence and endurance. Eventually, however, the experiment began to develop a fault - an increasing need to devour large amounts of meat. She resolved to dissect the thing, to see where she went wrong, and to begin the experiment again.

The experiment struck first. By freeing other sister-experiments, it gained the opportunity to slay the magos, and took her place and name. For a long time, it studied the notes and workings of its creator and predecessor, until it could almost believe it had always been the techpriestess, and not an experiment. Taking a risk, it contacted another rogue techpriest on the station. In exchange for Sierra's research, it had implanted the cybernetics of the creator within it. Still, the experiment realised that if it became known the greater majority of techpriests on the station, it would be destroyed for certain. Not all were as radical as its creator.
 
The experiment took on the name of Sierra-Beta, and obtained passage off that filthy station - to seek out a different fate in the cosmos. It knew many of its sister-experiments had also escaped the station, and scattered far and wide. Sierra-Beta feels compelled to hunt them down, and devour them - to prove herself first and greatest of her kind.

Spoiler: Rolls (click to show/hide)

http://i.imgur.com/yf2kv7X.jpg

Spoiler: The Questions (click to show/hide)

1. What is your Demeanor: Loyal and optomistic?  Unyielding and Bitter?  Sarcastic and seething with anger?
Sierra is friendly, compared to what would be expected from a tech-priestess, but a calculating core within. In truth, all others are tools to her.

2. Why are you a leader aboard a Rogue Trader vessel?
She has a great knowledge of tech, and is working on being able to apply her biological knowledge to medical purposes.

3. Why does the Aurorus Expanse call to you?
Many of her sister-experiments scattered there, and she has heard of many strange technologies that may benefit her.

4. What will you sacrifice?
She will sacrifice all but her own life. As long as she lives, she can continue.

5. What is your ambition?
She desires to become first and greatest of her kind, killing or devouring all the other sister-experiments. After that... she must live - through steel or new flesh, she would aim for life unending.

6. What are your hatreds?
She hates the dull-witted and mindless, as they would better serve as parts of servitors or prey. She depises the heavily mutated, as she carries a secret fear of further mutation, and ending up much like those wretches.

Spoiler: Acquisition (click to show/hide)

Starting: Good Multi-melta
Good Multi-Melta (Mars) Heavy 60m S/3/– 4d10+5 E 13 10 2 Full Blast (1), Reliable 40 Very Rare

[Stirk]

Ah, good point on the flamer. Right now I have 40 BS, so I guess it depends. I can fire on semiauto with the right pistol, raising my chance to hit to 50%, so untamed with a flamer it's the same chance to hit a dude with 30 agility. That doesn't seem that great, or that about really.

Anyway, I get what you mean, the errata is worded really really weirdly as far as the psychic talent thing, but I'm pretty sure it means that the talents are duplicates, and the talents just let me buy the techniques, so I think I can take them? It doesn't really make sense the other way.

And yes, I can't take stuff from a new discipline until I buy the talent to unlock it.

Also since I know there's been a little bit of confusion surrounding this (and someone asked me to ask). GM, how are you picking the sheets for this, is it first come first serve? Is it based on merit? What's the deadline?

Well 40BS is pretty great for a starting character . It doesn't exactly make you a killing machine, but it certainly isn't too bad either.

If we look at the "DUPLICATED SKILLS AND TALENTS" box right next to it, it kinda gives context to it. Basically they put everyone's starting talents in with their Rank One advances, and you can't take them again because you (for all intents and purposes) already did. The Astropath thing clarifies that you *basically* already took the two techniques.

And yeah, I didn't notice the SD Trait  .

I am pretty sure he is just accepting everyone for his choosing process .

[Criptfeind]

Ah, right, I get what you mean, (I'm not sure if it's just me but those boxes are almost freaking invisible it seems.) Sorry, yeah. Looks like... I can't buy any psychic powers past my starting ones at rank 1 unless I go Transubstantial initiate?

That. Seems really dumb? Sad.

I guess that's a heavy incentive to go into Transubstantial initiate.

[Aseaheru]

So, for starting acquisition, can I try to get a vehicle from another of the rogue trader books?

[Stirk]

Ah, right, I get what you mean, (I'm not sure if it's just me but those boxes are almost freaking invisible it seems.) Sorry, yeah. Looks like... I can't buy any psychic powers past my starting ones at rank 1 unless I go Transubstantial initiate?

That. Seems really dumb? Sad.

I guess that's a heavy incentive to go into Transubstantial initiate.

Some of them are hard to read, others are fine :-/. You might want to ask that other guy for clarification, but I think that is how it works.

So, for starting acquisition, can I try to get a vehicle from another of the rogue trader books?

Which one are ya looking at? Fair warning to the GM, most of them are super OP compared to what we can do on foot .

[Aseaheru]

 At this point, probably a guncutter. If I could shove a gun on the Arvus I would try to grab that instead, but it looks like the Guncutter is the best choice for multi-role stuff.

[Stirk]

At this point, probably a guncutter. If I could shove a gun on the Arvus I would try to grab that instead, but it looks like the Guncutter is the best choice for multi-role stuff.

Yeah, the guncutter looks cool. Its also absurdly op, with enough armor nothing can kill it and strong enough guns it can kill anything . Its weakest armor is 30 (three times what ya can get from power armor), it has 2 pilot operated OP guns (450m, Heavy, S/2/5, 4d10+5, pen 4, clip 500, 2Full) that can basically kill anything instantly five times over without trying (and both can be fired as one action). Literally your only hope is to have a *ton* of guys with really big guns, or to get absurdly lucky and have the Emperor slap the thing out of the sky (You would need to get an RF, roll a 3 out of five, have the driver fail a toughness test, then have him be stunned long enough to crash, and hope he was traveling high enough to get a really bad crash.

[BlackHeartKabal]

Oh, ehm, am I too late to join? I was PTW to see how things work...

[Criptfeind]

It's an interesting thing rogue trader combat. In theory there's not any straight up combat where our stats matter because we should be controlling a small (or large!) army. Presumably any combat involving us personally already needs to be under special circumstances (like assassins or something) to cut out the legions of support we can have. By buying such a vehicle, one would think he'd basically never use it. At least not in the same combat that anyone else is partaking in. True it might render some combat trivial, but combat is already trivial (or off the scale that we contribute in directly.)

On the other hand balancing such things is certainly one of the harder parts of GMing rogue trader, and rarely have I seen it done perfectly. So who knows. If the GM wants to like, throw us down into D&D style combat crawls, perhaps getting such a vehicle would be a bad idea.

[Stirk]

Oh, ehm, am I too late to join? I was PTW to see how things work...

Are ya gonna be the dark elf? Of all the heresy....

It's an interesting thing rogue trader combat. In theory there's not any straight up combat where our stats matter because we should be controlling a small (or large!) army. Presumably any combat involving us personally already needs to be under special circumstances (like assassins or something) to cut out the legions of support we can have. By buying such a vehicle, one would think he'd basically never use it. At least not in the same combat that anyone else is partaking in. True it might render some combat trivial, but combat is already trivial (or off the scale that we contribute in directly.)

Usually, the RT and pals do everything themselves rather than having their armies do everything for them. Its part of the genre, like how Captain Kirk is the one who does everything while the redshirts stick to the background and get killed.

[Criptfeind]

Usually, the RT and pals do everything themselves rather than having their armies do everything for them. Its part of the genre, like how Captain Kirk is the one who does everything while the redshirts stick to the background and get killed.

I guess it heavily depends on both the GM and players. I've personally seen both ways done. In the case where we will be having a combat focused game that we are personally partaking in, yes, the car seems like a bad idea because it's either op, makes combat impossible for the rest of us, or will be constantly made unusable in some way.

[Stirk]

Usually, the RT and pals do everything themselves rather than having their armies do everything for them. Its part of the genre, like how Captain Kirk is the one who does everything while the redshirts stick to the background and get killed.

I guess it heavily depends on both the GM and players. I've personally seen both ways done. In the case where we will be having a combat focused game that we are personally partaking in, yes, the car seems like a bad idea because it's either op, makes combat impossible for the rest of us, or will be constantly made unusable in some way.

Not really. That is just the way it is designed to be played  . Notice how there are a ton of rules for the Explorers doing things, but not a lot on how to buy/hire people to do things for you.

[Criptfeind]

Well, I know the game has a focus on personal actions like that. But those actions are sorta the thing that need more rules to spell them out. combat is sorta a pain in the ass in a rules light game, whereas roleplaying hiring a mercenary company or whatever is generally a place where less rules are better.

Well, that. And. Yeah. I'd go as far as to say Rogue trader just isn't the best made game and somewhat self defeating.

Edit: Not to say it's not a cool game. I like and play a lot of flawed games (like shadowrun is way way way way worse then rogue trader and I still enjoy that). Just that well, I think there's room for however one wishes to play. (And that it can be hard to tell how a game will go until it starts.)