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[andrea]

Well! not exactly what I hoped, but this one actually has decent coverage of the land. Further improvements can wait.

The reverse engineering in a tough choice.
Alloys might offer a direct advantage if we find ways to shape them or, at the very least, it will give us insight on how to pierce them

Successfully understanding the power source would give fantastic rewards, but it might be harder.

Well, between the 2 I pick.... sleep! I'll see the discussion and decide tomorrow ( late night here)
edit:or other people reach a consesus before tomorrow, and I wake up to a full turn. That would be awesome.

[somemildmanneredidiot]

Alloys

Because that might lead to Ore cost reductions eventually and it will probably help prevent things from blowing up when we do research the power source.

@Radio v Radar: They're both roughly in the same field so improvements to one will likely allow greater improvements to the other once we spend actions on it.

[Aseaheru]

 Yah, that would be quite bad for all of us.

-ninja edit-

 32 and 40mm can merged, probably along with 16mm. Remember that we currently have a 20mm autocannon round that does not need to be merged with anything since the large caliber MGs Moskurg used have been phased out for 30 caliber models.

Currently, we seem to have:
9mm for all of our pistols and submachine guns. We probably dont need to change this.
7.62x39mm and .208 intermediate rifle rounds. We should choose one or the other, or replace both.

-4x ninja edit-

 I vote alloys. Use in the Tiger armor should help some, and we can always wheel out a tank with some of it.
7.62x54mmR as semi-auto rifle and LMG
.30(something), used in bolt action and GPMG
20x100mm autocannon
30mm rocket-propelled grenade
41mm cannon shell
75mm cannon shell
80mm mortars
80mm cannon rounds
92mm cannon shell
102mm cannon shell

Speaking of LMG and GPMG, I dont see too much of a difference between the two save for pre-existing belt feed options and higher rate of fire on the Sorraia and the fact that the UF-1924 is a fair deal lighter. We may want to design one thing to replace both, though I see arguments for why to keep both aswell.

Artillery really needs work, we have five different rounds each used by only a single thing, and then the mortars, RPGs and autocannon.

-edit-

Right, why did we get rid of the nearly twice as large magazines for the cascade/AS-MC16? They should still fit, and the "suggestive comment" reasoning is silly. Plus, it also removes all the changes made to the stocks like pistol grips and foregrips.

[andrea]

ok, lets do Alloys. This way, perhaps I wake up to a turn

our artillery likely needs an overhaul, yes. Not sure how much of a priority it is, but a new piece of artillery to replace everything could be useful. Self propelled likely, due to the nature of our current war.

[Aseaheru]

 Right, so, I found some things out while trolling for data. First off, none of the Moskurgian ammunition(save for .35 caliber pistol rounds) gives a length anywhere.

 Secondly, Zan threw out a MP40 with a 56 round magazine in favor of a MP18 because of a magazine that can be concerted suggestively shaped to the drunk. Gee, thanks Zan. You know those where optional, right?

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

Secondly, Zan threw out a MP40 with a 56 round magazine in favor of a MP18 because of a magazine that can be concerted suggestively shaped to the drunk. Gee, thanks Zan. You know those where optional, right?

Taricus stated they were pretty much identical, unlike the Assault Rifles, so I just picked one and attempted to make a slight jest as to why the other isn't used.  Was easier to make the jest at the expense of the MP40 than the MP18

[Aseaheru]

The Arstotzkian has forward and pistol grips, along with lighter weight.

[stabbymcstabstab]

ok, lets do Alloys. This way, perhaps I wake up to a turn

our artillery likely needs an overhaul, yes. Not sure how much of a priority it is, but a new piece of artillery to replace everything could be useful. Self propelled likely, due to the nature of our current war.

+1

[Aseaheru]

 We probably need two or three pieces, to cover tank guns, howitzers and heavy tank cannons/AA artillery, but even that would get rid of 2 or 3 types of ammo to worry about.

[andrea]

yes, I was thinking about the howitzer when I talked about using just one. Basically, one shell size per role.

[Kot]

While this doesn't prove anything, I am pretty sure that the alien invasion would be one of few things that could stop WW2 dead in the tracks and make Allies, Soviets and Axis fight together against the new threat, so I wouldn't worry that much about fighting other humans.

I would rather focus heavily on AA, since we can't get capable fighters without jet engines...
...that or tigers, but I can't say more about that.

[3_14159]

I hope the revision goes well. After all the fighting I did over this, it would be embarassing if it failed horribly.

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I'll admit it.  I laughed when I saw this come up due to the new post warning.

Well. Yes. But at least it's no longer complex!

As for the reverse-engineering, definitely alloys. Researching the power source will give us the result of "it might as well be magic", while researching the alloys will probably give us "it might as well be magic, but here's how to destroy it".

[Happerry]

This valiant Tiger Patriot votes for Alloys.

[andrea]

@kot
yes, but I think we are keeping this war a secret, to keep all the glory and fight for ourselves.

@3_1415p
not only it is no longer complex, it also more than doubled its range. Now our version of the chain home is feasible and we laid the basis for vehicle mounted radars. It is not excellent, but it is far from a terrible result.

[RAM]

I would rather focus heavily on AA, since we can't get capable fighters without jet engines...

We don't need capable, and rockets can get us insane-but-gets-results interceptors. I mean, we are going to be losing pilots regardless...