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[Siquo]

Especially not in this thread.
Siquo Mandates More Fan Art! Less discussion about taste!

[Maggarg - Eater of chicke]

Especially not in this thread.
Siquo Mandates More Fan Art! Less discussion about taste!

Preferably in a medium where the only big-haired androgynous characters are the elves.

Oh, and your mandate is finished. Here's a quick negative drawing of a guard.

[Goldsie]

Typical Adventurer antics

[Siquo]

Aww, they're hugging! 
Nicely drawn though. Is that puke on the wolf's head?

Maggarg, your 'negatives' have a real engraving style to them. Draw a cheese!

Since mandates seem to work: I mandate Toady's masterwork to be honoured with another masterwork:

strangle people with the exposed guts, though I suppose that's now within reach

[Tack]

Heheh... he's dying. How funny, as I often die in adventure mode too.
My wishes for argument are sated... really, all I wanted to do is bring up ichigo and alucard in the thread and see if anyone identified them.


Indonesiawarminister (hehe, name)
Your pacifistness astounds and awes me. hooray to you.

Find me a western media that has the same potential depth and breadth as Anime does, go on, try.

Por-... uh... Cartoons? Ben ten, Digimon. The classics and such. Also - the comic book industry. Marvel, DC. Video game industry - another widespread industry. Reality tv. popular, though horrible.
Have I destroyed your argument yet?

[Hawkfrost]

Digimon.

Wait.... what?
Digimon is a Japanese anime dood.


The difference between western TV and Japanese anime is:

Western shows fall almost always into three categories; Comedy, Drama, and "Reality".
Cartoons in the west either fall into; Comedy, or Childrens shows.
In Japan, anime is a valid and accepted  media used for a broad range of subjects and maturity levels.


Calling someone who appreciates anime a total geek is the same thing as calling someone who likes western cartoons a complete moron.

[Siquo]

The Discussion Is Over. Open a new topic about East vs West cartoons, in which case I shall join the cause.

[Spreggo]

If you actually bother to define cartooning and anime, they are both just drawing simplified representations of forms.

I don't see how a system of representing forms can preclude any content/message that the artist might want it to carry.

Here's an anecdote that describes what I think these arguments are actually about:

When I was in art school, the students who were anime/cartooning focused always had a lot of trouble, particularly in life/figure drawing classes. They had deified their system to such a degree, that they thought that learning to do realistic, unsimplified representation was inferior and a waste of time.

They didn't and don't ever improve; their characters stayed poorly rendered even by the same standards they subscribed to. The reason is that you have to learn a form before you can learn to simplify it. I don't know of any truly successful cartoonist/anime artists who can't draw a convincing human figure, or cannot draw from life.

But as a rule, they took critique poorly, and were generally content with sitting around feeling like their style of art was being persecuted. What they didn't realize was that the serious cartoon/anime students had already realized that the bickering was a waste of time, and were now busy improving their craft through practice and study.

I guess the moral of the story is that you're just going to stagnate when you have an attitude of exclusion and self-righteousness.

[Hawkfrost]

I guess the moral of the story is that you're just going to stagnate when you have an attitude of exclusion and self-righteousness.

Makes sense.


Annnnnddd now back to your regularly scheduled dwarves, already in progress.

[Akroma]

originaly for a forum game, this totaly deserves to be posted here:

[Neoskel]

originaly for a forum game, this totaly deserves to be posted here:

-huge, somewhat disturbing image-

Is that Landslantern that the dwarf is cuddling? Or just some random skeletal fire imp?

[Judas Maccabeus]

Oh... wow.  That's... wow. 


Also:  Angry rainbow!

[Tack]

The Discussion Is Over. Open a new topic about East vs West cartoons, in which case I shall join the cause.

Note that his profile pic is Invader Zim.

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Anyway! My computer only loaded half the picture, so I saw the rainbow with the eyebrows... Thatisall.

EDIT:

Wait.... what?
Digimon is a Japanese anime dood.

Wow... well that's toyed with my beliefs. I thought it was an american rip of pokemon that got popular. Now it turns out that it's a japanese rip of pokemon that got popular.

[Nivim]

 I amazed that so many talented or not artists draw for dwarf fortress. This thread is very long.

[The Mad Engineer]

Bah.  EVERYONE knows that Egyptian art style is where its at.



Look at those subtle lines... that perfect caricature... the depth of the mythology...


Face it.  Neither Western nor Eastern art can beat the Profile.