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[Max™]

I meant promising compared to all the other times I've seen a phone dock trying to pretend it is a computer.

An S9 probably compares pretty well against whatever you're using, I've got ddr4 ram and a g4620 pentium and doubt I'm significantly far ahead of a flagship phone these days in regular day to day tasks.

[wierd]

The issue is having hardware in the phone. The hardware in the phone has to compete for space (See the *REAL* reason Apple removed the headphone jack), and so the maker is not going to put "dormant" hardware inside. The hardware that *IS* inside, is designed to run off the battery for 4 to 6 hours.

Clearer?

[Sheb]

The issue is having hardware in the phone. The hardware in the phone has to compete for space (See the *REAL* reason Apple removed the headphone jack), and so the maker is not going to put "dormant" hardware inside. The hardware that *IS* inside, is designed to run off the battery for 4 to 6 hours.

Clearer?

Oh, yeah, that's clearer.

[Max™]

That's a load of crap, they dropped the jack to push sales of bluetooth headphones. It's a tiny component with no real gain packaging wise.

Most flagship phones run on a big.little setup with a nominal 8 core chip using 4 high and 4 low speed/draw processors, very rarely do they use all 8 simutaneously, favoring spikes with the high or sustained low use, so there is literally dormant hardware potential which is tuned to offer certain battery life profiles and certain heavy use performance.

[wierd]

The size of the port itself is indeed tiny.

However, remember that it requires an amplifier, and a DAC. (The DAC likely already exists, but is likely a cheaper/smaller component that only drives the phone's built in speakers and mic, and does not need heavy amplification that headphones would need. Remember, not everyone uses tiny little earbuds that have low voltage requirements.) Compare with bluetooth which has antenna co-existence with the wifi chip-- or with direct digital output via the data port on the bottom.

Further consider the problems with RF noise of driving higher voltage pulsed signals in an enclosed space, and how this can cause problems with other device electronics.

Also, consider that not all of those "Deactivated cores" are functional, in all likelihood. If your intended use case is to never turn those cores on, then there is no need to have them be functional. This means the fab run can have higher acceptance rates, as not all the cores need to be functioning, and they can be defective from the factory.  If all the cores needed to function, these chips would have to be discarded. This means cheaper phones using the defective chips (that work just fine in the phone).

[Max™]

Yet we have the S9 with a jack.

Also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big.LITTLE

[wierd]

Samnsung's development department != Apple's development department.

I am not saying it is impossible, just that Apple had reasons other than "Oh noes, how will we get people to buy our overpriced "ear-pons" and beats headphones that get lost, are over-priced, and sound like shit!?" for why it eliminated the headphone jack.

[Max™]

Yeah, lots of development teams gave reasons for eliminating them, yet almost every one were simultaneously launching usb type-c or bluetooth headphones, so fuck their excuses, it's a cash grab.

[Egan_BW]

They had other reasons, the question is if they needed other reasons.
And it's Apple, so no they did not.

[Max™]

Not just apple, lots of teams did that, I think two weren't coincidentally launching usb type-c or bluetooth headphones? I follow fondleslab development as they're getting close to the point where I wouldn't mind one to play with.

[Sheb]

Well, I mean, if you get rid of the jack, you'd better make sure there are other headphones available.

[Max™]

Oh there are, but like I said, none of the "we desperately needed more battery room" bullshit flies. Be honest: you wanted to sell some new bluetooth bullshit and knew people would keep using analog jacks if given the choice.

[Starver]

And if they're going to force Bluetooth on me, they better double the baseline battery-life, to compensate. (How much extra space does that take up in the device, just to stand still in practical terms?

[Folly]

Windows just notified me that it had installed some photo app that was already busy scanning my hard drive and collecting albums from the pictures I had saved. A quick look at their store showed that I'm not the only one upset about this.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Microsoft has become the Donald Trump of operating systems, forcing it's own people to pay for crap that makes no sense and nobody ever wanted.

[Max™]

*puts the case up on jacks*
*slides underneath it on a dolly*
*clanks around a bit*
*slides back out*
Awright mac, seems like ya got a nasty microcrap infestation goins on in the-ah, honestly I gotta go wash my hands aft-uh touchin' that shit, we can go burns tha fuck outta it around back if'n ya want?