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Shaio

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Disposing of junk, the fast way.
« on: February 03, 2008, 02:34:00 am »
Well, once again today i was playing DF, and once again i was annoyed by the useless clothing that covered every surface.
So i came up with this.

code:
 
======D===============D=
_#BB                 Ss-
_#BB                 Ss-
_#BB                 Ss-
========================

key
= wall
B Draw bridge, raising <.
- Channel... Full of water.
_ drainage channel.
# Wall grate.
D Door
Ss screw pump.

Basically, there drawbridges to crush stuff, and a stockpile set to hold clothes/anything you don't want.
the drawbridge will be rigged to a pressure plate in some high traffic part of the fort, to make it constant repeat.

Naturally i made it alot bigger then in digram so i could flush/destroy alot of stuff at once. ( like 8x25 )

Basically i was annoyed with dumping everything one at a time.
This washes the whole lot into the bridges crush area, which then destroys the items forever.

Saving me large amounts of time, and space.

Also as a side note, its better to have 3 separate bridges, 2 of them connected to one pressure plate, the other connected to a different one, as they tend to raise/drop slowly.

Just threw this up here as Someone else might find it useful.

It however appears that water doesn't push creatures. I could be wrong, But this didn't get rid of my dungeon master when he was standing in it...

A shame thou, it'd amuse me to wash goblins down a hallway of doom, and have there corpses, and items neatly deposited somewhere for me.

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Re: Disposing of junk, the fast way.
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2008, 09:29:00 am »
quote:
It however appears that water doesn't push creatures.
Water's ability to push creatures depends on the water's pressure. No idea how accurate it is (I've never tested water pressure stuff), but water pressure is simulated to some extent.
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Quift

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Re: Disposing of junk, the fast way.
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2008, 07:57:00 am »
I'm not sure I get it. You've built this in your main hall? is that it. not much use if your fort is several z layers then or am I missing something.
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ilnar

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Re: Disposing of junk, the fast way.
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2008, 11:25:00 am »
genius , absolute genius, an automated garbage disposal, with almost no risk to dwarven life

as such, completly against the spirit of the game,
but still very well done!

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Shaio

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Re: Disposing of junk, the fast way.
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2008, 04:51:00 am »
no risk to dwarf life?

I've had so many dwarf's crushed as they tried to save junk as re-stockpile its not funny.

Also not my main hall, its merely a hallway, as detached from my fort as possible.... It disposes of garbage easily, and quickly via using a stockpile as opposed to dumping stuff.

[ February 07, 2008: Message edited by: Shaio ]

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Re: Disposing of junk, the fast way.
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2008, 06:38:00 am »
Then just make it a two-level affair, and block off the lower area (smash zone).  You might get some job cancellations due to pathfinding, but it's better than a load of dwarf cancellations due to stupidity.
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Furious Fish

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Re: Disposing of junk, the fast way.
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2008, 08:13:00 am »
I just have my guys throw stuff into a volcano . . .
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Re: Disposing of junk, the fast way.
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2008, 08:29:00 am »
quote:
Originally posted by Furious Fish:
<STRONG>I just have my guys throw stuff into a volcano . . .</STRONG>

Similar to me - my dump site tends to be the magma channel I've dug for smelters/forges.
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Shaio

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Re: Disposing of junk, the fast way.
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2008, 11:54:00 pm »
Yes but your dumping with the DUMP command... I'm just setting up a stockpile set to take low quality good and having the dwarfs do all the sorting and work for me.
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Merlon

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Re: Disposing of junk, the fast way.
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2008, 04:05:00 pm »
As much as I love over-engineering, your device has some shortcomings:

  • It's dangerous.
  • In a weak moment the doors might jam open and let garbage and water into your fortress proper.
  • Water-flows tax the CPU.
  • Items washed by flows sometimes become hidden when moved by water. (bug 525)

Some time back a very simple automatic garbage-grinder was circulating the forums. This one was originally made by Silveron:

code:
Basement:
██ ██ < service entrance
██┼██ < locked door
█├─┤█
█████
Ground floor
██ ██ < fortress access
██^██ < dwarf pressure-plate connected to bridge
█▒▒▒█ < pit w/dump designation
█████

For every delivery the bridge is automatically cycled and stuff gets removed.

It does have one drawback in comparison with your design though, since you can't designate a stockpile in open space you also can't get this to automatically destroy all items of low quality. You'll have to first make a sorting room, then designate the contents for dumping occasionally.

Here's the original thread:
Automatic Trash Compactor V1

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