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[jecowa]

I was looking through all the mods to see how likely they are to be compatible with each other and thought the spreadsheet might be useful to others who are trying to pick out some mods.

Permission	Modified Vanilla Files	Evaluation	Author	DF Version	Votes	Mod Name
granted		looks okay for pack	Malecus	0.40.19	4	Arctic Addition Mod!
pending		looks okay for pack	ZM5	0.43.05	n/a	Combo Weapons Mod
pending		looks okay for pack	DSD	0.43.03	0	Fluffy Pony Mod
granted		looks okay for pack	IndigoFenix	0.43.03	1	FORTAL KOMBAT!
granted		looks okay for pack	darkflagrance	0.43.05	11	Fortress Defense Mod II
granted		looks okay for pack	CastrosCajones	0.43.05	n/a	Land Carp
granted		looks okay for pack	darkflagrance	0.43.05	2	Plump Helmet Invaders
granted		looks okay for pack	IAmTheMadLord, TangentialThreat	0.43.05	n/a	Phoenix Megabeast
		looks okay for pack	Wastedlabor	0.	0	Procedural Decoration Legends
pending		looks okay for pack	ikeepadreamjournal	0.43.05	n/a	Scorpion People
granted		looks okay for pack (modular raws in its own folder)	Enemy post	0.43.05	0	Star Wars:Jawa Fortress
granted		looks okay for pack	ZM5	0.43.05	0	Warcraft standalone pack
granted		bundled with vanilla raws	IndigoFenix	0.43.02	4	Mostly Mythical Monsters Modular Mod
granted	end4, fortressintro, kingarrival	modifies 3 announcement files	IndigoFenix	0.43.x	0	Rise of the Mushroom Kingdom
granted		requires DFHack	Putnam	0.42.x	1	Dragon Ball
granted	major changes to creature_standard	modifies 1 object file	Dirst	0.43.x	2	Appearance Tweaks
	entity_default.txt	modifies 1 object file	Jake	0.40.24	1	Black Powder Firearms
granted	entity_default.txt	modifies 1 object file	Halnoth	0.43.x	3	Haberdasher / Cloth Armor Mod
granted	tissue_template_default	modifies 1 object file	AverageBandit	0.43.03	0	Deadly bleeding!
	entity_default.txt	modifies 1 object file	Liber celi	0.40.13	0	LC's Terrible Weapons Pack
	entity_default.txt	modifies 1 object file	Lucelle	0.42.x	4	Lucelle Weapons and Armour
pending	entity_default.txt	modifies 1(?) object file	Meph	0.43.03	n/a	Meph Tileset(?)
	interaction_standard	modifies 1 object file	Jerry The Hellbound	0.42.x	0	Solari
granted	entity_default	modifies 1 object file	Eric Blank	0.43.05	1	Spellcrafts - Another Lame Magic Mod!
granted	entity_default	modifies 1 object file. requires DFHack	Dirst	0.43.x	5	The Earth Strikes Back!
	entity_default.txt	modifies 1 object file	Seagoon	0.43.05	0	Undertale: Pretale Mod
	entity_default, material_template_default	modifies 2 objects files	Urist McGoombaBrother	0.43.03	2	Crematory Overhaul
	creature_domestic, reaction_other	modifies 2 objects files	Wannabehero	0.34.11	5	Deeper Dwarven Domestication
	entity_default, plant_standard	modifies 2 objects files	than402	0.43.02	2	Expanded Good/Evil Regions
	entity_default, material_template_default	modifies 2 objects files	Putnam	0.42.06	2	Fortbent: Homestuck
pending	material_template_default, reaction_other	modifies 2 objects file	sackhead	0.	9	More leather mod
	entity_default, creature_subterranean	modifies 2 objects files	Boltgun	0.42.06	1	Succubus Dungeon
	entity_default, inorganic_metal, reaction_smelter	modifies 3 objects files	AceSV	0.42.05	n/a	Furry Fortress 2 - Rise of the Jackalopes
	entity_default, material_template_default, creature_subterranean	modifies 3 objects files	Kazoo	0.42.05	3	Kazoo's Silk Egg
	some of the book stuff	modifies 3 objects files	pikachu17	0.43.03	0	Pikachu's submission for Dwarf 4tress from scratch
		modifies 6 objects files	Sorcerer	0.43.04	1	My Little Fortress: Losing is !!Magic!!
	entity_default, 9 item_* files, and optionally creature_standard	modifies 10 objects files	Stalhansch	0.43.05	3	Stal's Armoury Pack
		modifies 14 vanilla files	ZM5	0.43.05	0	ZM5's Modpack - Warcraft, Dragon's Dogma, and more
		modifies vanilla raws	Random_Dragon	0.43.05	5	Adventurecraft
		modifies 48 vanilla raws	Valikdu	0.43.05	0	Desolation
		modifies vanilla raws	Knight Otu	0.43.02	2	Direforged
		requires DFHack and Rubble interpreter. modifies 11 vanilla raws	milo christiansen	0.42.06	0	First Landing addon pack
		modifies 18 vanilla raws	Grimlocke	0.42.06	5	Grim's History and Realism Mods / Historic Arms and Armors
		modifies vanilla raws	umiman	0.28..39d	1	It's The Small Things Mod / Small Things Mod
		modifies vanilla raws	Random_Dragon	0.43.05	3	Kobold Kamp
		modifies ~40 vanilla raws	Button	0.42.06	5	Modest Mod
		modifies 17 objects files, bundled with vanilla files	Teneb	0.40.x	1	Nchardahrk
		modifies vanilla raws	apiks	0.43.05	1	Teh LOLmod
		only contains python scripts (requires python interpreter)	Knight Otu	0.42.06	0	Random Raw Scripts
		modifies 44 vanilla files. requires DFHack	Teneb	0.43.03	0	Warhammer Mod
	book_art, book_instruction, entity_default,  inorganic_stone_mineral, material_template_default, world_gen	modifies 6 vanilla files, bundled with DF	GM-X	0.43.05	6	Dark Ages: Mythos of Rammok
		modifies 53 raws, bundled with DF, using outdated raws	Deon	0.43.02	2	DF Wanderer / Wanderers Friend
		modifies 4 objects files, bundled with DF (but not preinstalled)	Zanzetkuken The Great	0.40.24	0	Dragonic Civilization
		modifies 50 vanilla files, bundled with DF	Putnam	0.34.11	2	Fantastic Dwarf Fortress
		modifies 109 vanilla files, bundled with DF	TomiTapio	0.43.04	2	Genesis Mod / Old Genesis
		modifies 72 vanilla raws, bundled with DF	Valikdu	0.43.05	3	My Little Fortress: Friendship is Magma
		modifies 61 vanilla raws, bundled with Phoebus	Evaris	0.40.24	2	Orichalcum

[Teneb]

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[Putnam]

Announcement files are basically nothing, Fortbent is the only other mod I know of that has ever actually modified it and any overwrites don't actually remove any functionality, it's pure flavor. I'd consider that green, or maybe some intermediate between green and yellow.

[jecowa]

Announcement files are basically nothing, Fortbent is the only other mod I know of that has ever actually modified it and any overwrites don't actually remove any functionality, it's pure flavor. I'd consider that green, or maybe some intermediate between green and yellow.

That sounds good. Thanks for the help.

[Halnoth]

I'm cool with my mod being used for this. Also, since the cloth armor mod does require adding things to the entity file, I would be willing to change names of reactions if there are any conflicts. Additionally, you have it listed as 43.xx but it should function fine from when toady added complex instruments on, which is I think 42+. Although seeing how you expressed the version 43.xx works fine. I used some of the new instrument tokens to create the fancy furniture.

[Enemy post]

Jawa Fortress only modifies files in the object folder and changes no default raws, so just that and the Star Wars text folder in the objects are needed for a merge. Otherwise it should mix fine with anything unless it matches one of my raw files. I'd be happy to see it used for this. If you want, I'll send you a cleaned version to make it fit in better.

*Edit, what I meant was that no vanilla raws are changed. Everything related to the mod is in the files marked starwars. Why did you think that 32 files were changed?

[IndigoFenix]

Feel free to use any of my mods.

Also worth mentioning that ROTMK can function with or without any vanilla creature files.  Some wilderness-focused mods might function better without them, so maybe add an option to remove them if a mod that fills out all biomes effectively is active.

I'm not sure if there are any other mods that are both fully modular as well as big enough to fill out all biomes though.

[Halnoth]

*Edit, what I meant was that no vanilla raws are changed. Everything related to the mod is in the files marked starwars. Why did you think that 32 files were changed?

I assume he is using some sort of RAW reader to check for changes. Did you maybe use older vanilla raws when you copied your RAWs into the new version?

[Enemy post]

*Edit, what I meant was that no vanilla raws are changed. Everything related to the mod is in the files marked starwars. Why did you think that 32 files were changed?

I assume he is using some sort of RAW reader to check for changes. Did you maybe use older vanilla raws when you copied your RAWs into the new version?

That could be it, I started with 34.11 and changed the Star Wars stuff to fit. To update, I copy my things into the new version and filter by matching names. I did remove creature_standard, entity_default, and item_shield. I have backups of the removed raws and an alternate worldgen included in separate folders with the mod. Is that it?

[jecowa]

Jawa Fortress only modifies files in the object folder and changes no default raws, so just that and the Star Wars text folder in the objects are needed for a merge. Otherwise it should mix fine with anything unless it matches one of my raw files. I'd be happy to see it used for this. If you want, I'll send you a cleaned version to make it fit in better.

Thanks for the help. I hadn't been checking anything that was bundled with Dwarf Fortress because there were a lot of mods to check and mods bundled with Dwarf Fortress are a bit more tricky.

*Edit, what I meant was that no vanilla raws are changed. Everything related to the mod is in the files marked starwars. Why did you think that 32 files were changed?

From the quick check I did yesterday, it looks like Star Wars: Jawa Fortress needs to have 32 object files removed from the game. A mod that needs to nullify a bunch of object files probably isn't going to be very compatible with other mods. Is it okay to use Star Wars: Jawa Fortress with all the vanilla raw files installed?

[Enemy post]

Yes, it works, those raws are removed to maintain flavor. If you don't mind mixing stuff, it's not a problem. I'll make the clean version for you later.

*And here it is. I realized while checking it that the old instruments have been removed, but Star Wars still had them and the object file. For compatibility, I removed those things for this release.

**Edit, just noticed this download lacks the ammo and interaction files. Anyway, the modular folders in my mod now should replace this.

[Halnoth]

Jecowa,

I don't know how to LNP mod tool works, would I need to include an entity file or can the mod tool add tags? And if so is there a particular format you need the tags in?

Just trying to be helpful, this looks like a big undertaking.

[jecowa]

Jecowa,

I don't know how to LNP mod tool works, would I need to include an entity file or can the mod tool add tags? And if so is there a particular format you need the tags in?

Just trying to be helpful, this looks like a big undertaking.

Including an entity file is helpful. I don't think the mod tool adds tags, but that would be a cool feature.

The ideal format for Lazy Newb Pack would be like what Dirst is doing in the Appearance Tweaks mod. The way the Haberdasher format is setup is pretty good, but including a version with a pre-made entity file would help. I like the way dirst does it - he has both a pre-made file and he has a file called "entity_default.insert" that just has the parts that need to be added to a vanilla file. Even users who are using the "entity_default.insert" file to manually install the entity tags can use the pre-installed version as a guide on where to put them.

On the poll people wrote in answers telling me that they use the Lazy Newb Pack software to install mods, so it would probably be helpful to publish mods in the Lazy Newb Pack format. So you would have your Haberdasher folder and in that you would have a "manifest.json" and a "raw" folder and possibly a readme file or something. Then in the "raw" folder you would have an "objects" folder with all your mod files. There's no need to include unmodified vanilla raws.

[Halnoth]

Including an entity file is helpful. I don't think the mod tool adds tags, but that would be a cool feature.

The ideal format for Lazy Newb Pack would be like what Dirst is doing in the Appearance Tweaks mod. The way the Haberdasher format is setup is pretty good, but including a version with a pre-made entity file would help. I like the way dirst does it - he has both a pre-made file and he has a file called "entity_default.insert" that just has the parts that need to be added to a vanilla file. Even users who are using the "entity_default.insert" file to manually install the entity tags can use the pre-installed version as a guide on where to put them.

On the poll people wrote in answers telling me that they use the Lazy Newb Pack software to install mods, so it would probably be helpful to publish mods in the Lazy Newb Pack format. So you would have your Haberdasher folder and in that you would have a "manifest.json" and a "raw" folder and possibly a readme file or something. Then in the "raw" folder you would have an "objects" folder with all your mod files. There's no need to include unmodified vanilla raws.

Ok, I'll change the format and have a look at the format Dirst uses. Please forgive my ignorance though, what is a manifest.json file? A google search told me it was a Java file but the explanation for what it does went over my head. Is it something LNP uses and can I just copy it? Or do I need to somehow create one? I have 0 programing skills. ChE and science teacher background here.

[jecowa]

Ok, I'll change the format and have a look at the format Dirst uses. Please forgive my ignorance though, what is a manifest.json file? A google search told me it was a Java file but the explanation for what it does went over my head. Is it something LNP uses and can I just copy it? Or do I need to somehow create one? I have 0 programing skills. ChE and science teacher background here.

Manifest.json isn't very important. It's an optional file. There's one included with the Appearance Tweak mod that you can use as an example, but he left out a line:

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    "df_max_version": "0.42.05",
The author field is where you put your name. I'm not sure if that's currently used for anything though.
the content version is where you put the version number of your mod. I'm not sure if that actually does anything either.
"df_min_version" and "df_max_version" tell the Lazy Newb Pack what versions of Dwarf Fortress that the mod is compatible with.
The "title" is the name that the Lazy Newb Pack displays for your mod when users are selecting it.
The "tooltip" field lets you put something like a short description of your mod that is displayed when users mouse-over your mod.

Graphics packs also use the same format. Here's an example of how I like to format them:

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{
    "author": "DragonDePlatino",
    "url": "http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=136221.0",
    "content_version": "v0.26",
    "df_min_version": "0.42.05",
    "df_max_version": "0.43.03",
    "title": "DawnFortress",
    "tooltip": "Functional graphics set with high clarity between sprites."
}