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Kilojoule Proton

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Re: Ye Gods 4 OOC [14/40]
« Reply #375 on: August 22, 2016, 01:22:05 pm »

Demonic Spoon: Return: Likely a high-fidelity recovery where it doesn't interfere with other actions, meaning sealing for the rest of the duration of the sealing, no retroactive income, no (automatic) resettlement of daoine in their ancestral lands following the Ka(p)ttivity, and a renewed opportunity for well-wishers to free him

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    Atian the Elephantman God: Gotious: 0E

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        Price check for big spiritual dimensions that pass through the mountain and rorrim in different pattern, affecting the spiritual world as well as the desires of people.: >>200E, but can be substantially lower with nominal (0E) IC support from others
        How much would one of those cost if it had many different spirits that would enter Rorrim while passing through it...: >>300E

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        Rare plants that grant the finder some degree of Luck that get correlatingly harder to find the more divine help that a being receives - including racial characteristics for that kind of thing.: 0E
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Re: Ye Gods 4 OOC [14/40]
« Reply #376 on: August 22, 2016, 01:24:54 pm »

And lorewise? Will his escape from the bubble be retconned?
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Re: Ye Gods 4 OOC [14/40]
« Reply #377 on: August 22, 2016, 01:32:12 pm »

He consorted and cavorted with Tallsgnuithaathry and managed to arrange for a return trip or something
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Re: Ye Gods 4 OOC [14/40]
« Reply #378 on: August 22, 2016, 01:35:36 pm »

Lets look back at all the games you played. Do you know what the *real* connecting thread between all your characters that died? It wasn't secrecy or roleplaying. It was you. We have had plenty of successful Gods who acted mostly in secret (like Cim), and plenty of heavily roleplayed gods that acted openly (Like Captain Praven), the problem is that you always act more or less the same with your characters. You always get other Gods angry with your actions, and you expect them not to retaliate. You always fall for obvious traps and ambushes, even when they practically have a blinking "THIS IS A TRAP" sigh for you to *not* fall for it. You don't try to avoid fights by being clever or strong, and you never realized when you are outgunned. If nobody has this problem but you, you are probably the problem.

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This time there wasn't any build up to a final confrontation or anything, but to have lost so much, almost a month's worth of build up to a gag? The grim reaper in his fortress, defeated not by something awesome or amazing or even clever, but some cheap joke with all the humour of a fart noise. It felt like my defeat was worth nothing and I lost so damn much of something I had sunk a very large amount of time into.

As you probably figured it out by DS calling it a number, that was Mani's creation. It couldn't talk by itself, so we where speaking through it. Again, the problem here was you. You saw an obvious trap and ran toward it head first, which wasn't clever or smart. If you had sat in your safe little fortress, you would have been fine for another tick at least. If you had run away, you would have been safe for longer. You made the worst move you possibly could have, without thinking of the consequences. Epic battles and clever rouses simply aren't needed to defeat you, because you always play like you would jump down a pit trap if there was an arrow above it pointing downward with the words "KANDY" written in blood.

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Heroes respawn. I didn't permakill the dragon seeing as it was an undead construct rather than a necromancer so it'll come back on its own after a few Ticks.

The dragon wasn't *really* undead, as in it wasn't created by a necromancer. Remember when the laylines pumped out necromatic energy? This was a trap for Death, a known necromancer killer, with the necromancers as bait. Kats, however, did something unexpected and went to kill the necromacers herself. This would have ruined our plan and set the trap on her, so Mani created an "undead" dragon as a distraction to keep her away from the trap. This ended up being unnecessary, so the dragon was armored and re-purposed as a Divine Agent.
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We all have our turn-offs. You want to know mine? Stupid shit. In YG0, we had a massive godly war of truly epic proportions. I spend days and weeks imagining the whole thing in my head. Great armies and powerful champions in a giant battle. That battle ended with an explosion out of nowhere, my most powerful archangel dying not in a climactic battle with Tykki or at least some other champion, but stupid fucking flying monkeys out of nowhere.

In YG4, now, everything I worked for gone because of some stupid coloured streaks, a stupid wisecracking undead dragon, and some stupid shark in a bubble of water. You want to talk about roleplay? Here's the God of Death embroiled in a theoretically dramatic and intriguing plot of genocide and necromancy, all of it ended by the most utterly stupid and random crap. That perhaps is what I hate most of all about Ye Gods. I get invested, I put effort and Essence and weeks into something and I take pride in it, then it's ended in an instant by a clown and an exploding pie come from absolutely fucking nowhere.

Tykki was the flying monkey. Nothing you ever made was anywhere close to being in the same tier as her, so she killed everything you tried to fight Fusil with without even trying. So I had her transform into a flying monkey and kill you, because you would never expect Fusil to have a flying monkey assassin. It was an intelligent and well planned move that just happened to be silly. All the "random crap" are stuff I made or caused in your example. The shark was there because Mani asked his time travelers where he would find Death, so the shark had to go there to avoid paradoxes.

Every action has a reason, just because you aren't bright enough to see it doesn't mean its random.
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Re: Ye Gods 4 OOC [14/40]
« Reply #379 on: August 22, 2016, 03:04:14 pm »

Spoiler: Visalash (click to show/hide)
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Re: Ye Gods 4 OOC [14/40]
« Reply #380 on: August 22, 2016, 03:05:03 pm »

Finally the guy who has been lurking on the discord forever posts.

Anyway, we two seem like we'd be good friends. Future tech-buddies!
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Re: Ye Gods 4 OOC [14/40]
« Reply #381 on: August 22, 2016, 05:59:19 pm »

You're disparaging us by saying our days of efforts and at least two sleepless nights are nothing more than a gag and cheap joke, and not at all worthy of having caught the great and super-awesome Death.
It wasn't a cheap joke, but the text explaining what was happening didn't present it as anything but that. All I got was essentially a message saying "you lose now" by a smartmouthed dragon and a talking shark. If you suddenly got a message with no warning saying "a jelly roll explodes in your face and everything you worked for is gone gg", would the experience at all be enjoyable to you?

    Permakills?: Considering the secret stuff that went on for most of the game before and the actual necromantic abominations, yes
This presents a problem, because most of the reason why all this has happened is apparently because you misinterpreted my actions despite me not using 'permakill' and 'kill' interchangeably and instead using them in separate sentences. I got screwed through no fault of my decisions. So what happens now?

    Return: Confirm return?
Confirm return.
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Re: Ye Gods 4 OOC [14/40]
« Reply #382 on: August 22, 2016, 06:04:45 pm »

You got screwed through no fault of your own?

So Death wasn't killing gods or committing genocide?
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Re: Ye Gods 4 OOC [14/40]
« Reply #383 on: August 22, 2016, 06:07:46 pm »

Regarding why we attacked Death, it was less the god killing and more the permakilling of necromancers and races
If this is to be believed, it was the permakilling that got me into most of my trouble, not the deicide.
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Re: Ye Gods 4 OOC [14/40]
« Reply #384 on: August 22, 2016, 06:10:26 pm »

But you weren't the one that did it?

Or are we just arguing the semantics of permakilling versus "just" killing them?

'cause it seems to me you're trying to blame KJP for fucking something up, when in reality you attacked other gods and then threw a massive hissy fit when they hit you back.
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Re: Ye Gods 4 OOC [14/40]
« Reply #385 on: August 22, 2016, 06:30:17 pm »

I'm just gonna wait now until I get confirmed for re-entry. The mess has only gotten worse once I started adding to it.
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Re: Ye Gods 4 OOC [14/40]
« Reply #386 on: August 22, 2016, 06:36:36 pm »

Mostly because you seem to think yourself a victim of other players ganging up on you as though you didn't do anything to encourage that, and the GM misinterpreting what you wanted to happen.

None of this had anything to do with you, apparently.
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Re: Ye Gods 4 OOC [14/40]
« Reply #387 on: August 22, 2016, 06:42:36 pm »

Mostly because you seem to think yourself a victim of other players ganging up on you as though you didn't do anything to encourage that, and the GM misinterpreting what you wanted to happen.

None of this had anything to do with you, apparently.

He permakilled a bunch of things and is claiming he *only* meant to kill them.
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Re: Ye Gods 4 OOC [14/40]
« Reply #388 on: August 22, 2016, 06:48:11 pm »

A bit of outside perspective, Andres.

A god of death has built a fortress of an afterlife, along with items to remain hidden and easily kill Divine level agents. He has drained all inactive gods up to this time, has done absolutely nothing out in the open, working through secret actions alone. This god has committed genocides and all of his mortal followers are isolated from all other mortals, live in frontier villages where status quo does not change, true and through essence farms.

To me, this just screamed "Minmaxer readying for full pantheoncide"

So yeah.
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Re: Ye Gods 4 OOC [14/40]
« Reply #389 on: August 22, 2016, 08:03:46 pm »

Broadcast: When you'd like to hold back on an action, especially when you're likely to fall in two weeks or less, make sure I confirm the holding-back; otherwise, the anti-curbstomp policy kicks in.

ShadowDragon/Visalash: Added

Andres: Eh, fine, retcon permakills to kills. Good thing it doesn't affect the crunchy bits.

Andres/Death: Added
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