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[Demonic Spoon]

Turns out quitting YG wasn't the answer to not being depressed about this whole situation. I ask to be let back in so I can get this over with and move on.

Stirk, I don't want to hear any of your shit. You're most of the reason why I went from being kind of bummed out to having chest pain every time I think about what's happened to my character.

To prevent this being a royal(divine?) mess, I'd like to recommend/request you join with a new god please Andres. Too many complications if Death just suddenly re-appears.

Also means that quitting the game temporarily is a valid method of escaping imprisonment.

[Andres]

Turns out quitting YG wasn't the answer to not being depressed about this whole situation. I ask to be let back in so I can get this over with and move on.

Stirk, I don't want to hear any of your shit. You're most of the reason why I went from being kind of bummed out to having chest pain every time I think about what's happened to my character.

To prevent this being a royal(divine?) mess, I'd like to recommend/request you join with a new god please Andres.

I've put a lot of thought into this and realised that I really can't. There's no other god I really want to play, there's no way I can play another god without it tasting of ash in my mouth, and there's no way I can gain any kind of investment if I do. Most times I thought of playing a new god the train of thought always arrived at making a War god and just nuking everything which is completely unsatisfying to me and proof of how little I would care about my actions. I don't want that to be my YG experience.

Also means that quitting the game temporarily is a valid method of escaping imprisonment.

I'll probably get reinprisoned with my reintroduction so don't worry about that.

[Demonic Spoon]

Maybe play a god of Secrets? Seem in-character with your current preferred play-style.

[Andres]

Maybe play a god of Secrets? Seem in-character with your current preferred play-style.

I have to repeat myself it seems.

There's no other god I really want to play, there's no way I can play another god without it tasting of ash in my mouth, and there's no way I can gain any kind of investment if I do. Most times I thought of playing a new god the train of thought always arrived at making a War god and just nuking everything which is completely unsatisfying to me and proof of how little I would care about my actions. I don't want that to be my YG experience.

There's also my ingrained hatred for intrigue when it comes to YG. My doing everything in secret was for the sole purpose of not attracting attention and thus not getting involved in intrigue. Both times I did mostly secret actions it worked exactly as planned. It was only when I started interacting with other gods or their creations that things took turns for the worse.

[hector13]

I'm confused as to how acting against other gods in secret is not intrigue.

[Andres]

I'm confused as to how acting against other gods in secret is not intrigue.

I had to choose between a blank slate character that purely focused on min-max or one with some actual goals. I mistakenly chose the latter and thus tried playing a character who wanted to preserve the sanctity of the concepts of life and death. Killing the gods when they went inactive was simulating a "their time has come" kind of deal and killing the necromancers was to stop them from defiling the sanctity and importance of life and death. Meddling in the affairs of other gods was necessary to remain in character, to actually have a character.

It's a recurring theme. The more I stick to secret actions and the more I min-max, the more enjoyable it ends up being for me and the less danger I put myself in. It's when I roleplay that everything goes to shit.
I tried keeping Eid (YG2 edition) neutral for a while but then some gods started messing with my race. Everyone remembers how that turned out.
New Malakath's tone was as monotone and emotionless as I could make it, but the problem was that I did a lot of stuff in public. I survived the fallout and once I switched to mostly secret actions, everything was actually going very well. Heck, I managed to avoid starting another feud with Stirk's character entirely (I still can't believe I managed that) and Rolep's character's strange antipathy to mine didn't result in hostile action like it usually does. I finally started enjoying myself and working on my projects in peace was fun, but that's when the game ended.
I can't remember YGL very well, but it was probably a similar deal.

YG4 was going according to plan. I built up a large worshipper base which got me a lot of Essence which allowed me to indulge in my favourite bit of YG - projects. Got an afterlife set up, started building artifacts I was proud of, then I had to do character-building stuff. I even picked the least-reviled Death archetype of Balance Guardian and that still wasn't enough. I think this time around I'll stick to self-improvement rather than roleplay. It was fun when I did it as New Malakath and it was fun while I was doing it as Death, I might as well stick to it exclusively now.

[Demonic Spoon]

I'm confused as to how acting against other gods in secret is not intrigue.

I had to choose between a blank slate character that purely focused on min-max or one with some actual goals. I mistakenly chose the latter and thus tried playing a character who wanted to preserve the sanctity of the concepts of life and death.

No, that's not mistakenly, that's a good thing. Your mistake was not making preparations for counter-attacks, getting allies or responding to attempts to open a dialogue. One god has a hard time beating more than one god. As crazyabe himself pointed out, Zenrach was a very good potential ally, a fellow Death-God, that you completely ignored, that could have been willing to help you out if you just reached out, and like, rescue you from your prison for example.

In addition, as odd as it might seem, Frami may have been a good ally as well for protecting the sanctity of Life and Death. I doubt he approves of necromancy.
 

Killing the gods when they went inactive was simulating a "their time has come" kind of deal and killing the necromancers was to stop them from defiling the sanctity and importance of life and death. Meddling in the affairs of other gods was necessary to remain in character, to actually have a character.

This is all fine. But don't be surprised if other gods act against you for doing that. It's like how there was the potential for Frami to act against me because I'm spreading technology everywhere. I fully expected him to do so at some point, but fortunately he seems more "passively anti-technology" than "aggressively anti-technology"

It's a recurring theme. The more I stick to secret actions and the more I min-max, the more enjoyable it ends up being for me and the less danger I put myself in. It's when I roleplay that everything goes to shit.

Alternatively, don't be an idiot. You can roleplay, and not lose. The key is social interaction, i.e. preventing other gods from dogpiling you. This is a group game. The reason I got away with a "slap on the wrist" is because I actually engaged with those wanting to punish me and did some stuff together in private.

I tried keeping Eid (YG2 edition) neutral for a while but then some gods started messing with my race. Everyone remembers how that turned out.

I don't actually. Could you give me a refresher please?

New Malakath's tone was as monotone and emotionless as I could make it, but the problem was that I did a lot of stuff in public. I survived the fallout and once I switched to mostly secret actions, everything was actually going very well. Heck, I managed to avoid starting another feud with Stirk's character entirely (I still can't believe I managed that) and Rolep's character's strange antipathy to mine didn't result in hostile action like it usually does. I finally started enjoying myself and working on my projects in peace and quiet was fun, but that's when the game ended.

I still don't remember anything about this one. Your character's aren't very memorable for me for some reason.

YG4 was going according to plan. I built up a large worshipper base which got me a lot of Essence which allowed me to indulge in my favourite bit of YG - projects. Got an afterlife set up, started building artifacts I was proud of, then I had to do character-building stuff. I even picked the least-reviled Death archetype of Balance Guardian and that still wasn't enough. I think this time around I'll stick to self-improvement rather than roleplay. It was fun when I did it as New Malakath and it was fun while I was doing it as Death, I might as well stick to it exclusively now.

Roleplay is supposed to be fun. If you're not enjoying it, then try a different style until you find something you like.

[Andres]

I tried keeping Eid (YG2 edition) neutral for a while but then some gods started messing with my race. Everyone remembers how that turned out.

I don't actually. Could you give me a refresher please?

It ended with a small alliance of gods spearheaded by mine joining forces to kill the God of Evil. The attempt failed, one of the members committed suicide to avoid punishment ("Isgon...is gone" is literally how I remember that god's name), and me and the other active god barely avoiding execution and instead got sentenced with incarceration (and then I think an unrelated god exploded in our cell, but my memory's hazy).

New Malakath's tone was as monotone and emotionless as I could make it, but the problem was that I did a lot of stuff in public. I survived the fallout and once I switched to mostly secret actions, everything was actually going very well. Heck, I managed to avoid starting another feud with Stirk's character entirely (I still can't believe I managed that) and Rolep's character's strange antipathy to mine didn't result in hostile action like it usually does. I finally started enjoying myself and working on my projects in peace and quiet was fun, but that's when the game ended.

I still don't remember anything about this one. Your character's aren't very memorable for me for some reason.

If New Malakath wasn't memorable to you, then everything went exactly according to plan. The plain monotone voice followed by minimal IC action would naturally have resulted in an unmemorable character.

If you're not enjoying it, then try a different style until you find something you like.

That's exactly what I'm doing. I found the thing I have fun doing and I'm doing it.

[Demonic Spoon]

I tried keeping Eid (YG2 edition) neutral for a while but then some gods started messing with my race. Everyone remembers how that turned out.

I don't actually. Could you give me a refresher please?

It ended with a small alliance of gods spearheaded by mine joining forces to kill the God of Evil. The attempt failed, one of the members committed suicide to avoid punishment ("Isgon...is gone" is literally how I remember that god's name), and me and the other active god barely avoiding execution and instead got sentenced to incarceration (and then I think an unrelated god exploded in our cell, but my memory's hazy).

Ah, you were part of that particular clusterfuck? Yeah, that was just a plain old mess.

That's exactly what I'm doing. I found the thing I have fun doing and I'm doing it.

The problem is, you seem to have arrived at the conclusion that "roleyplaying isn't fun and makes me lose, so I'm going to just minmax like a motherfucker". This is incorrect

At least just make a new god of "Power! UNLIMITED POWAH!" or something so that doing so is vaguely in character.

[Detoxicated]

Heck i was part of the alliance and we escaped the prison last minute.  This whole action was annoying but fun. If you escaped by quitting just to reappear i would feel cheated if i had made an Investment. Come back as a prisoner. You are a god, you can break free"

[Demonic Spoon]

Heck i was part of the alliance and we escaped the prison last minute.  This whole action was annoying but fun. If you escaped by quitting just to reappear i would feel cheated if i had made an Investment. Come back as a prisoner. You are a god, you can break free"

Even if he was a prisoner again, the timing and mood is all off now. We can't make things the way they were before and the circumstances to consider are different. The prison was always meant to be temporary as well. Honestly, Death coming back now would just be a pain.

But yes, rolling with the punches can be surprisingly fun Andres. You should try it sometime. I know it's hard, and I've struggled with it myself sometimes, but I consider it to be an essential skill to enjoy a long-running game.

[hector13]

+1

I mean I'm just now beginning to consider ways that I can expand on my goal as Fortuna. 27 Ticks in!

But that was mostly dos to my own laziness and lack of creativity in how to deal with Luck, compounded by significant distractions in my own existence.

[Andres]

The problem is, you seem to have arrived at the conclusion that "roleyplaying isn't fun and makes me lose, so I'm going to just minmax like a motherfucker". This is incorrect

Some people play Skyrim for the story, some for the gameplay, some for the exploration. As Yaos I ended up spending every ounce of my time and Essence interacting with other gods or as a result of doing so. I went through that rabbit hole again as Eid. I am tired of godly politics. I've found that my enjoyment of the game comes not from the social aspect of the game but from the progression aspect. Please accept my preference of play style.

But yes, rolling with the punches can be surprisingly fun Andres. You should try it sometime.

Don't just assume I haven't and especially don't assume that everyone enjoys it. I'm doing it now not because I find any enjoyment in getting out of this predicament, but because continuing as Death is the least emotionally painful option available to me right now.

[hector13]

It's difficult to accept your preference when you were engaging other gods and their creations, and then throwing your toys out the pram once they responded.

There's no Council this time 'round so there's much less in the way of godly politics. I've only interacted with other gods three times this time round, one of which was roundly ignored, another of which I more or less ignored, and the final one of which I invested all of 3E to get my point across.

It seems like you have to go out of your way to get other folk to interact with you - at least directly anyway - in this version, which isn't altogether a bad thing.

[Demonic Spoon]

The problem is, you seem to have arrived at the conclusion that "roleyplaying isn't fun and makes me lose, so I'm going to just minmax like a motherfucker". This is incorrect

Some people play Skyrim for the story, some for the gameplay, some for the exploration. As Yaos I ended up spending every ounce of my time and Essence interacting with other gods or as a result of doing so. I went through that rabbit hole again as Eid. I am tired of godly politics. I've found that my enjoyment of the game comes not from the social aspect of the game but from the progression aspect. Please accept my preference of play style.

There's nothing wrong with liking progression. I'm saying that playing the game for the mechanics doesn't mean you can't do roleplaying as well. YG isn't a roleplay intensive game, but at least a small amount is fun. The complete radio-silence from Death made him a complete turn-off for me.

But yes, rolling with the punches can be surprisingly fun Andres. You should try it sometime.

Don't just assume I haven't and especially don't assume that everyone enjoys it. I'm doing it now not because I find any enjoyment in getting out of this predicament, but because continuing as Death is the least emotionally painful option available to me right now.

I can understand being invested in a character. But if you were so invested in Death, you shouldn't have quit in the first place.

Again. I can understand not enjoying having a character you're invested in being in a bad situation, but actually getting them out of that situation is usually more fun for both you and your fellow players than outright quitting. If you don't enjoy that, then why are you playing in a aggressive enough manner to potentially become a target of other gods, and then not being cautious?

Landria has been quite aggressive in-character, which has made me paranoid enough that I've spent a lot of essence on personal defence, and have expected for something to go horribly wrong for at least a dozen ticks now.

Meanwhile you were feeling confident enough to manage to get imprisoned by what should have been a rather obvious ambush.