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Author Topic: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: T+0  (Read 1393458 times)

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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: T+0
« Reply #18165 on: January 23, 2017, 09:08:52 pm »

Trump just ordered the media to stop reporting about the Pope, God, or "other insignificant elitist bastards". "If you want to spread fake news", he said, "it shall be about me". /f
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« Reply #18166 on: January 23, 2017, 09:10:47 pm »

Don't worry, Trump will probably be out after 1 term. Three two-term presidents in a row (Clinton -> Bush -> Obama) hasn't happened since 1820. Four's never happened in American history.

Something tells me he is going to try and contest the results if he loses in 2020. :P
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« Reply #18167 on: January 23, 2017, 09:27:24 pm »

Don't worry, Trump will probably be out after 1 term. Three two-term presidents in a row (Clinton -> Bush -> Obama) hasn't happened since 1820. Four's never happened in American history.

Something tells me he is going to try and contest the results if he loses in 2020. :P

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« Reply #18168 on: January 23, 2017, 09:49:36 pm »

The key to remember: NY Times and WashPo are the legit papers, NY Post and Washington Times are the yellow journalism rags.

So, according to Gallup, Dubya bottomed out at 25% approval. I've found lower, but not included aggregates for some reason, so I guess they might not be reliable. Anyway, think Trump will beat it?
Trump's starting off at a much lower point. Even if he only lasts one term I'm betting he breaks 20%. The real goal is getting below the Congressional approval rating.
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« Reply #18169 on: January 23, 2017, 09:53:43 pm »

I don't know man, sometimes Congress goes so far that they break the Lizardman's Constant, even if Trump literally starts putting people in concentration camps I think he'd manage 1 in 10 support.
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« Reply #18170 on: January 23, 2017, 09:55:56 pm »

The key to remember: NY Times and WashPo are the legit papers, NY Post and Washington Times are the yellow journalism rags.

That reminds me of this sketch.

Edit: Don't know what the American equivalent of each category would be, though.
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« Reply #18171 on: January 23, 2017, 09:56:23 pm »

I don't know man, sometimes Congress goes so far that they break the Lizardman's Constant, even if Trump literally starts putting people in concentration camps I think he'd manage 1 in 10 support.
Like I said, he's got to work damn hard for it. But what can I say? Trump is absolutely the best at making people hate him, nobody generates widespread dislike the way Trump can. Trump knows that he can count on the American people to make him the best terrible president America has ever seen.
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« Reply #18172 on: January 24, 2017, 01:15:09 am »

Don't worry, Trump will probably be out after 1 term. Three two-term presidents in a row (Clinton -> Bush -> Obama) hasn't happened since 1820. Four's never happened in American history.
As if that means anything.

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« Reply #18173 on: January 24, 2017, 02:37:17 am »

Interesting article on investments in financial technologies:
https://news.slashdot.org/story/17/01/24/046204/china-unseats-us-as-global-investment-leader-in-financial-technology-report

Basically between 2015 and 2016 China went from 19% of global "fintech" investments to 46% (investments in China were $2 billion in 2010 vs about $20 billion in 2016), while America declined from 56% of global investments to 41%. (which puts total global investments at about 43 billion, 17 billion of which is in America. So in a single year, China went from a backwater to the main game in town for investment in financial services. Also in 2016, the service economy in China exceeded 50% of GDP for the first time. Basically Trump wants a trade war with China, but he's probably 15 years too late for it to really matter to the Chinese.
« Last Edit: January 24, 2017, 02:59:57 am by Reelya »
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« Reply #18174 on: January 24, 2017, 02:49:00 am »

Don't worry, Trump will probably be out after 1 term. Three two-term presidents in a row (Clinton -> Bush -> Obama) hasn't happened since 1820. Four's never happened in American history.

Something tells me he is going to try and contest the results if he loses in 2020. :P


wait is contesting result bad or good? because seems most people around here were all for it just this last november  ::)
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« Reply #18175 on: January 24, 2017, 03:14:54 am »

Don't worry, Trump will probably be out after 1 term. Three two-term presidents in a row (Clinton -> Bush -> Obama) hasn't happened since 1820. Four's never happened in American history.

Something tells me he is going to try and contest the results if he loses in 2020. :P


wait is contesting result bad or good? because seems most people around here were all for it just this last november  ::)

Depends on the results mostly. The whole thing was made weird by Trump losing the popular vote by a huge margin and still winning the EC. Of course though, Trump's ego is inflamed by the whole hacking deal.

Four years is a long time however, so....
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« Reply #18176 on: January 24, 2017, 03:16:36 am »

Don't worry, Trump will probably be out after 1 term. Three two-term presidents in a row (Clinton -> Bush -> Obama) hasn't happened since 1820. Four's never happened in American history.

Something tells me he is going to try and contest the results if he loses in 2020. :P


wait is contesting result bad or good? because seems most people around here were all for it just this last november  ::)

It is the context behind calling for it.

No one sane is against contesting the results of an election. They are against using it as a platform to air your grievances.

I mean to put what you said in context... If we were talking about police searches.

"Wait are police searches good or bad? Because most people around here were all up for it when they were searching well established drug warehouses. Yet now that they are randomly searching people's homes it is bad apparently... MAKE UP YOUR MINDS!" (Hyperbole for comedy)
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« Reply #18177 on: January 24, 2017, 03:17:23 am »

Good when it looks like there might be reason for it (ahead a couple million in the popular vote and losing anyway, ferex), bad when it's incredibly obvious there's not (say what's somehow managing to look even more likely to be the results of a trump reelection attempt).

Posit being trump would be trying to screech out a results contest even if he was several million down and flattened in the EC.
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« Reply #18178 on: January 24, 2017, 03:24:10 am »


Posit being trump would be trying to screech out a results contest even if he was several million down and flattened in the EC.

but here's the problem, everyone's projecting the worst possible outcome always. seems right when they tell they're under attack all the time from all the fronts.

the real issue is that hating everything equally is gonna shadow the real bad stuff he's gonna push like on abortions.
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« Reply #18179 on: January 24, 2017, 03:28:58 am »

Australia is already pitching for a new version of the TPP which includes China this time but not America. The real issue is that the USA framed TPP specifically to exclude China from the deal. But with America pulling out of the deal, China is free now to push it's own regional trade bloc that doesn't include America.

the real issue is that hating everything equally is gonna shadow the real bad stuff he's gonna push like on abortions.

I think that's a mischaracterization of what's happened recently. The media merely reported on the inauguration event. Then Sean Spicer went into full meltdown mode over the media coverage (which was just normal coverage of such an event on an otherwise slow news day). Basically the Trump people are who made this into a media spectacle.
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