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Author Topic: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: T+0  (Read 1417799 times)

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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: 2016, Version 2.0
« Reply #17220 on: January 12, 2017, 05:57:53 pm »

I am starting to think the only reason he doesn't ban Gay marriage is because it would be lengthy and costly...

Pretty much everything he has promised to do is lengthy and costly and stupid. Do I really need to mention the wall?
The only reason he doesn't ban gay marriage is because he isn't president yet. Give it a few weeks.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: 2016, Version 2.0
« Reply #17221 on: January 12, 2017, 05:59:31 pm »

Yes but he isn't REALLY going to build a wall.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: 2016, Version 2.0
« Reply #17222 on: January 12, 2017, 06:00:49 pm »

He will. If there's one thing people will think of when Trump is mentioned, it's the wall.

He'll build it, but won't necessarily get Mexico to pay for it, 'cause he's an idiot who just says things to either look good or make people do things he wants.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: 2016, Version 2.0
« Reply #17223 on: January 12, 2017, 06:12:59 pm »

He will. If there's one thing people will think of when Trump is mentioned, it's the wall.

He'll build it, but won't necessarily get Mexico to pay for it, 'cause he's an idiot who just says things to either look good or make people do things he wants.

Obviously, he'll build the wall on the promise that Mexico will pay for it (but use US tax dollars instead) and then claim that Mexico paid for it once the wall is built.

...I wouldn't be surprised if that's actually what happened.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: 2016, Version 2.0
« Reply #17224 on: January 12, 2017, 06:25:49 pm »

Beware making statements of necessity when in regards to Trump. He's stepped back on plenty of things before that were "utterly vital". He might well, as I've seen some Trump voters advocate, turn around and make The Wall into a metaphor for harsh immigration policies instead of a literal wall.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: 2016, Version 2.0
« Reply #17225 on: January 12, 2017, 06:50:53 pm »

Yes but he isn't REALLY going to build a wall.
Yes he will! And it will be a byutiful wall. Except when it's a fence.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: 2016, Version 2.0
« Reply #17226 on: January 12, 2017, 07:42:54 pm »

Huh, just as a reminder, we are all susceptible to propaganda. I formerly believed that vaccine-autism conspiracy theories were predominantly a liberal phenomenon. In fact, it is approximately equally present in both sides.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: 2016, Version 2.0
« Reply #17227 on: January 12, 2017, 09:02:20 pm »

Huh, just as a reminder, we are all susceptible to propaganda. I formerly believed that vaccine-autism conspiracy theories were predominantly a liberal phenomenon. In fact, it is approximately equally present in both sides.

The sample size seems pretty low. But it was 5% Dem, 10% Ind, 8% Repub, 6% Lib, 7% Mod, 9% Con. That seem ridiculously high. No matter the side.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: 2016, Version 2.0
« Reply #17228 on: January 12, 2017, 10:08:46 pm »

Don't forget the Lizardman Constant.

Somewhere around 4% of people who voted for Obama believe that he is the Anti-Christ.

There's plenty of people who just like to troll.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: 2016, Version 2.0
« Reply #17229 on: January 12, 2017, 10:27:25 pm »

In fairness, at this point I'd totally go in for voting for a dispensational premillennialist-style antichrist. World unity, suppression of religion and tradition, competent leadership backed by metaphysical infernal power, it's got it all.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: 2016, Version 2.0
« Reply #17230 on: January 12, 2017, 10:29:57 pm »

In fairness, at this point I'd totally go in for voting for a dispensational premillennialist-style antichrist. World unity, suppression of religion and tradition, competent leadership backed by metaphysical infernal power, it's got it all.
S'funny that.  Though, we'd have to head off all the apocalypses.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: 2016, Version 2.0
« Reply #17231 on: January 12, 2017, 10:30:51 pm »

yeah that's basically just noise at that point, 5%

not surprised about the independents though
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: 2016, Version 2.0
« Reply #17232 on: January 12, 2017, 10:33:05 pm »

I'm feeling optimistic.

If we're lucky, he'll damage the Republican Party into finally putting on their big-boy pants and stop pissing themselves with stupidity.

I mean good lord. The ACA might not be well-liked by everyone, but just throwing it out is a horrifyingly stupid plan that undercuts millions of Americans, some of whom who voted for you in ignorance.

With any luck, the Democratic takes the next election because no one likes Trump, the Republicans clean house because their toxic shit, and we all go back to having two parties that aren't destroying the country.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: 2016, Version 2.0
« Reply #17233 on: January 12, 2017, 10:40:20 pm »

If there was any intention of the Republican Party reforming their shit, we would have seen it by now. It's been a continuous spiral. I think Reagan-waifu is a shit, but you can make a strong argument for him, and he was definitely given a democratic mandate. Bush Sr., like whatever. Nobody remembers that, stop lying. I don't even remember the name of Clinton's second term challenger.

Then there's Dubya, which I think we don't really need to talk about. McCain was like a half-step in the right direction, and I'll grant that the dude sticks to his principles, but the immense pressure to reach as far into the moderate vote as possible after Dubya makes me see this one as an outlier. It definitely didn't indicate a trend when Romney was nominated, with all the boringness of McCain and all the sneering elitism of...himself, really.

And then Trump. That's almost 40 years of shit, and I'm not even talking about Nixon. If they had a way out, I think they would have taken it by now.

The Republicans are tied to their far-right psycho vote, losing those few percent would be fatal. This makes them substantially changing impossible, even post-Trumpening. That's not even getting into the mess that is the connection between the social and financial rights through the Religious Right, although that one has come partially undone with Trump.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: 2016, Version 2.0
« Reply #17234 on: January 12, 2017, 10:42:03 pm »

So, it's hard to pay attention to politics anymore, I've got a brain thing which censors reality tv and my eye can't even see it except to trigger the "change it" reflex, but a good hearty lulz can still get my attention.

This, I would say, is a good hearty dollop of lulz.
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