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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #15645 on: December 14, 2016, 10:06:37 pm »

The Almighty Evil Overlord Putin the World Master was, as uncovered by the forces of Freedom, personally leading the attack on USA's sovereignty.

This part is most hilarious:
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But a currently serving U.S. intelligence official said that there are things Putin is sensitive about, including anything that makes him seem weak.
So far, the USA media has done a great job of informing the entire world about the untold political might of Putin and doing the exact opposite of making him seem weak.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #15646 on: December 14, 2016, 10:39:29 pm »

The Almighty Evil Overlord Putin the World Master was, as uncovered by the forces of Freedom, personally leading the attack on USA's sovereignty.

This part is most hilarious:
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But a currently serving U.S. intelligence official said that there are things Putin is sensitive about, including anything that makes him seem weak.
So far, the USA media has done a great job of informing the entire world about the untold political might of Putin and doing the exact opposite of making him seem weak.

Now the dillema is how exactly do we respond? The whole thing is verging on an act of war (the way I'm hearing some people tell it), but launching a massive cyberattack risks further escalation of cyberattacks.

Also, no duh that he's personally involved.

edit: I don't see that specific story anywhere else. News confirming that Putin himself was behind it would be big news, but I don't see it elsewhere.
« Last Edit: December 14, 2016, 10:49:52 pm by smjjames »
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #15647 on: December 14, 2016, 11:36:41 pm »

The facepalms keep coming in 2016. It seems Twitter was cut out of an important tech meeting with the Trump Administration because they'd refused to make a special "Crooked Hillary" emoji for Twitter during the election.

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At least that's the CEO of Twitter's version of events. According to a Trump spokesman, they couldn't be at the meeting because "the conference table was only so big". What's next? Exclude important ambassadors from meetings because you ran out of chairs?

-_- -_-
« Last Edit: December 14, 2016, 11:39:57 pm by Reelya »
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #15648 on: December 14, 2016, 11:39:19 pm »

The facepalms keep coming in 2016. It seems Twitter was cut out of an important tech meeting with the Trump Administration because they'd refused to make a special "Crooked Hillary" emoji for Twitter during the election.

-_-

Makes you wonder whether a misunderstood joke by Putin or a misunderstood offhand remark (not implausible given the language barrier) or a small thing would make Trump go 'AAAA! YOU ENEMY NOW!'

Basically, narcississicists don't make good diplomats.
« Last Edit: December 14, 2016, 11:41:27 pm by smjjames »
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #15649 on: December 14, 2016, 11:40:51 pm »

Trump is really taking his relationship with Twitter personally, I can't wait for him to gain the power to send us all text messages. Just think of all the Greatness you poor non-Americans will miss out on not getting Presidential Texts. Don't worry, maybe Trump will let your barbarian nations submit control of your networks to him.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #15650 on: December 14, 2016, 11:49:37 pm »

The facepalms keep coming in 2016. It seems Twitter was cut out of an important tech meeting with the Trump Administration because they'd refused to make a special "Crooked Hillary" emoji for Twitter during the election.

-_-

At least that's the CEO of Twitter's version of events. According to a Trump spokesman, they couldn't be at the meeting because "the conference table was only so big". What's next? Exclude important ambassadors from meetings because you ran out of chairs?

-_- -_-

Actually, via Vox, Trump's team says that twitter wasn't invited "because they weren't big enough.". So, in laymans terms, "you're too poor to be in this club HA! HA! HA!". No surprise Trump only thinks in monetary terms.

edit: Vox article if people are interested: http://www.vox.com/new-money/2016/12/14/13958550/trump-twitter-emoji-feud
« Last Edit: December 14, 2016, 11:53:34 pm by smjjames »
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #15651 on: December 14, 2016, 11:52:27 pm »

The facepalms keep coming in 2016. It seems Twitter was cut out of an important tech meeting with the Trump Administration because they'd refused to make a special "Crooked Hillary" emoji for Twitter during the election.

-_-

Makes you wonder whether a misunderstood joke by Putin or a misunderstood offhand remark (not implausible given the language barrier) or a small thing would make Trump go 'AAAA! YOU ENEMY NOW!'

Basically, narcississicists don't make good diplomats.
Trump has repeatedly shown during the election that Putin hold a pretty special place in his heart. It was about the only position that he was consistent about, and that's saying something.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #15652 on: December 14, 2016, 11:58:43 pm »

The facepalms keep coming in 2016. It seems Twitter was cut out of an important tech meeting with the Trump Administration because they'd refused to make a special "Crooked Hillary" emoji for Twitter during the election.

-_-

Makes you wonder whether a misunderstood joke by Putin or a misunderstood offhand remark (not implausible given the language barrier) or a small thing would make Trump go 'AAAA! YOU ENEMY NOW!'

Basically, narcississicists don't make good diplomats.
Trump has repeatedly shown during the election that Putin hold a pretty special place in his heart. It was about the only position that he was consistent about, and that's saying something.

I know, but the two really haven't interacted much other than a courtesy phone call or two, plus, given how thin-skinned Trump is, it doesn't seem like it'd be hard to have a falling out.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #15653 on: December 15, 2016, 12:01:09 am »

inb4 the President is actually, literally imprisoned for high treason

Please don't misuse the word treason. It's literally the only crime defined in the Constitution and would require us to be at war with Russia

The Constitutional definition is that "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.". The current US legal provision is " "whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States."

It is entirely possible for a nation to be considered an enemy without an active state of war, and no legal definition of which I am aware claims otherwise. Case law is very narrow on the subject, as most people that would probably fall under the definition of treason were instead convicted of other offenses, with only eleven (Six in WWII, one for participation in the Battle of Blair Mountain labor uprising, one from the Civil War, One for leading Fries Rebellion in 1800 and two for the Whiskey Rebellion) convictions in US history.
...Who brings those charges?
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #15654 on: December 15, 2016, 12:04:33 am »

Actually, via Vox, Trump's team says that twitter wasn't invited "because they weren't big enough.". So, in laymans terms, "you're too poor to be in this club HA! HA! HA!". No surprise Trump only thinks in monetary terms.

edit: Vox article if people are interested: http://www.vox.com/new-money/2016/12/14/13958550/trump-twitter-emoji-feud
The Vox one, while being more sensible is from an unnamed source. Whereas the "the conference table was only so big" quote is from a named source, Trump advisor Sean Spicer, and was on MSNBC. That one's more fun and is better sourced. Here's it on video!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VIryC4dtLs

I can see a fair amount of space between those chairs actually, they could have fit more people in. Or maybe hold meetings somewhere with a bigger table.
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« Reply #15655 on: December 15, 2016, 12:09:06 am »

I, I, I can't, I can't even.
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« Reply #15656 on: December 15, 2016, 12:09:27 am »

And just so you guys remember

YOU VOTED FOR TRUMP and everyone who DIDN'T vote for trump was just irrationally hating on him for no reason.

That is the narrative America is sticking with. Remember Liberals won Trump the election and Conservatives are the poor trodden upon voter base who are maliciously slandered.
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« Reply #15657 on: December 15, 2016, 12:14:11 am »

Actually, via Vox, Trump's team says that twitter wasn't invited "because they weren't big enough.". So, in laymans terms, "you're too poor to be in this club HA! HA! HA!". No surprise Trump only thinks in monetary terms.

edit: Vox article if people are interested: http://www.vox.com/new-money/2016/12/14/13958550/trump-twitter-emoji-feud
The Vox one, while being more sensible is from an unnamed source. Whereas the "the conference table was only so big" quote is from a named source, Trump advisor Sean Spicer, and was on MSNBC. That one's more fun and is better sourced. Here's it on video!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VIryC4dtLs

I can see a fair amount of space between those chairs actually, they could have fit more people in. Or maybe hold meetings somewhere with a bigger table.

No matter the source or whether they're the real reason, all three of those reasons are bullshit Twitters role goes FAR beyond how much money they make or their stock value.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #15658 on: December 15, 2016, 06:41:31 am »

Now the dillema is how exactly do we respond?

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edit: I don't see that specific story anywhere else. News confirming that Putin himself was behind it would be big news, but I don't see it elsewhere.


that's the whole point. you don't respond to alleged attacks unless there something more beyond a single quote from a single source citing 'anonymous officials' - meanwhile people should respond to 'anonymous sources' demanding evidence. which is what the House Intelligence Committee asked for, but most stuff will be classified thus the people won't be able to effectively judge the situation and will be required to trust their call.

what the people can do is to squash the alarmist with a healthy dose of skepticism and avoid falling from both sides ruses, avoiding pushing either agenda and instead rewarding level headed people. instead I see people already talking about getting up in arms for this and that, which personally terrifies me.

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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #15659 on: December 15, 2016, 08:45:10 am »

And just so you guys remember

YOU VOTED FOR TRUMP and everyone who DIDN'T vote for trump was just irrationally hating on him for no reason.

That is the narrative America is sticking with. Remember Liberals won Trump the election and Conservatives are the poor trodden upon voter base who are maliciously slandered.
This is the narrative you're sticking with m8
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