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[Reelya]

This time around you don't have to worry about the "becoming a laughingstock" phase, so at least you're saving time there.

[miljan]

As a person not from USA this is very unexpected. There was so much anti trump propaganda in medias, a lot more compared to anti clinton propaganda. Very surprised with this. Really hope he will move away from standard US foreign politics, but I doubt it.

[Phmcw]

Is the HuffPo a good source for you?  Well read this before replying : http://www.huffingtonpost.com/medea-benjamin/hillary-clinton-the-podes_b_11779826.html

[Neonivek]

PFT! just watched a show that said that if Trump messes up Royally we can impeach him.

Sorry but that isn't how things work.

[Telgin]

Didn't Clinton get impeached for lying?  Trump is such a compulsive liar that almost seems inevitable, but it would require someone to actually bother to file the impeachment against him, which seems unlikely.  More unlikely he'd even be removed.

Plus, if he's removed that puts Pence in charge, which is equally terrifying but in its own way.

[Neonivek]

Didn't Clinton get impeached for lying?  Trump is such a compulsive liar that almost seems inevitable, but it would require someone to actually bother to file the impeachment against him, which seems unlikely.  More unlikely he'd even be removed.

Plus, if he's removed that puts Pence in charge, which is equally terrifying but in its own way.

Yeah it is a miracle no win scenario.

If Trump goes down, then Pence goes up... if Pence gets knocked down... then they will put in another person to carry on Trump's ideals.

[Frumple]

Media coverage was about even, actually, milj.

Fun fact, by the way. Arctic ice is showing hotter than pretty much ever, right now. It's incredibly and increasingly likely we're going to have ice free or close enough within a year or two.

Our EC just elected a climate change denier. Paris accords are probably screwed. Any attempts at improving climate issues are probably screwed.

And people want a lie, isp. More than anything. Too something (hell if I know what combination of what) to deal with reality or try to find a real path forward. Too much to acknowledge the people trying to help them, because that means admitting they need help, and/or that there's actually a problem. They're getting the lies they asked for.

[Ghills]

You know on the plus side alot of special interest groups corrupt politicians corporations main stream media and SJWs hate Donald Trump

He did manage to piss off all the right people at least

Are you joking? Corrupt politicians and special interest groups *love* Trump.  Just a different group of them.

[Aklyon]

I see the thread has gotten worse as expected.

Carry on.

[Rolan7]

I await Clinton fans to start lash at Sanders for not quitting on time as an excuse for her loss.

It's already happened, and not just Sanders. Maddow last night was alternating between having a mental breakdown and blaming Gary Johnson for taking voters from Clinton. Yes, you read that right.

Well he did, though??
Liberals who thought the election was in the bag (here in NORTH CAROLINA) so they voted to support a third party system.  Libertarians tend to be okay on moral issues, or at least "The government shouldn't force stuff".
And then it helps because liberals were, like, almost more eager to tear down Clinton than the conservatives were.  Thanks to Saint Sanders the Independent supposedly not getting fair treatment after turning Democrat (when the reality is the DNC held his hand for much of the process, despite owing him nothing).  I wish we had O'Malley, you know, someone with some stake in the party.
So yeah, a lot of liberals convinced themselves that Clinton was Satan and voted for Johnson.

Speaking of Sanders

Maybe now the American left (and that means you) will admit that it has its head up its ass?

You have to do better, and Obamacare was pitiful.

Clinton wanted single payer, she fought for single payer for decades, it's something she's always been completely honest about.
But then she ran on a platform of improving Obamacare instead of SOMEHOW replacing it with single payer outright, and she's a conservative shill.  Better vote for Trump or third party!!

I've still got my millenial brother claiming that Clinton is a liar because she called Single Payer "untenable" once (in a wikileak so it's 1000% more meaningful, rather than being unsubstantiated).

Yeah, you know, maybe we do need a wake up call.  I guess we're getting one anyway, let's make the most of it!  Everybody take a GOOD LOOK at what happens when you choose unrealistic idealism over gradual positive change.

It's like Westboro Baptist.  Nobody takes them seriously, they're too extreme.  But maybe if they try really hard and accept even less compromises, they'll get... someone like Pence... in power...
Joking aside though, the Republicans didn't win this, they didn't even want the guy.  The Democrats tore themselves apart in a fit of jealousy and impatience.

(inb4 "single payer isn't extreme".  Yeah Europe, thanks, but it's extreme here)

[miljan]

Media coverage was about even, actually, milj.

Not in countries out side of USA, especially from comments of EU politicians.

[sprinkled chariot]

On the bright side of things, you guys turn out to have actually working democracy, which can work.
 (Never expected, that candidate opposed by current goverment, establishment, by majority of important newspapers,all those  political experts guys writing articles in said newspapers and even his own political party can win elections)

 Also holy shit, stuff like :" all smart, creative and educated people go for Hillary, and if you dont you are retard/ Trump is loser / Berniebros are worthless "  slapped Hillary back like a boomerang  . Can your liberals do some better campaign next time? (if the planet does not turn into glassball)

[Frumple]

Not in countries out side of USA, especially from comments of EU politicians.

Oh, probably. Was talking US media. Other countries basically hate trump, heh. Foreign opinion of the guy is pretty terrible, particularly in relation to clinton. Even johnson, hilariously enough.

Well, there's not much we can do now about him winning. Guess we just get to see what sort of future the country's wrought upon itself.

More or less. Fun thing, though. Clinton's about 200k ahead in the popular vote right now. Let us hope this goes better than the last time we had someone lose the popular vote and win the EC.

[TheBiggerFish]

On the bright side of things, you guys turn out to have actually working democracy, which can work.
 (Never expected, that candidate opposed by current goverment, establishment, by majority of important newspapers,all those  political experts guys writing articles in said newspapers and even his own political party can win elections)

 Also holy shit, stuff like :" all smart, creative and educated people go for Hillary, and if you dont you are retard/ Trump is loser / Berniebros are worthless "  slapped Hillary back like a boomerang  . Can your liberals do some better campaign next time? (if the planet does not turn into glassball)

Ahahahahahahahahahahaha THIS DEMOCRACY IS NOT WORKING Trump lost popular vote but won EC

[DJ]

Sanders or no Sanders, DNC has pushed forward a very unlikable candidate purely due to internal party politics. Surely there were more charismatic people in their ranks, but I guess they weren't in the right place in the party hierarchy