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[MetalSlimeHunt]

It was Wilson's reelection that resulted in him throwing us into the war, but I'm counting it anyway since he got started in 1912.

[Frumple]

Isn't Trump merely being audited, rather than criminally investigated as Wikileaks are saying RE Clinton? One is a normal process, the other is not.

... if you had actually read the article WL was blowing up from basically nothing (and was itself clickbait bullshit dredged up at this point in time precisely because it was old news idiots would froth themselves up about, again), criminal investigations are things that aren't happening. IRS's checking over things to placate yet another republican witch hunt, but it's no more than your usual charity organization audit beyond that.

Though no, trump's pretty much perpetually under civil and/or criminal investigation due to how terrible a person and businessman he is, and if he's not under any criminal ones right at this moment (mind you, he is under investigation for at the very least some of the stuff related to the assault accusations, but it's not about his tax avoidance or charity fraud and whatnot, yet) it's because sane people (i.e. not the people feeding conservative media in the US, these days) don't tar their organization with the brush of political bias in the middle of an election. That's pretty likely to change after the election's over and cooled down, assuming his legal team doesn't manage to settle outside court for the Nth+1 time.

As for wikileak's general accuracy, maybe something else they're doing is better but their twitter has been all sorts of fucked up the last handful of months. Outright lies, massively deceptive framing, etc., so on, so forth. Particularly pretty much anything they've released about clinton, even if the material itself is authentic what they're saying about it is about as likely to be a grotesque distortion (at best) as anything. It's come up in this thread, two seconds with google with find you a nice spread of times, particularly recently, when they're just straight up lied, never mind the accusations of fabrication for some of the more recent leaks or how badly they've twisted some of the material they've released. They've been doing their damnedest to undermine themselves with everyone that's not drinking alt-right/anti-clinton swill, one way or another.

[Loud Whispers]

Spoiler: stay healthy lads (click to show/hide)

[Dorsidwarf]

Spoiler: stay healthy lads (click to show/hide)

Man it would be the ultimate kek, a kek of immense height standing high above all other keks if all the most obsessed people about this election keeled over before the result was known and when they arrived at the pearly gates were told that people in Heaven don't get to watch the earth.

[RedKing]

Google daily Doodle reminded me that it's the 100th birthday of Walter Cronkite. Makes me wonder what Uncle Walt would have thought of this election cycle. 

Most of y'all are probably too young to remember Cronkite as a news anchor. He retired when I was still a kid, but would occasionally fill in for Dan Rather or Charles Kuralt when they were on vacation. There was just something about his voice and his demeanor -- it was like being told the news by your grandfather -- (the kind, wise one; not the crazy, racist, "back in my day" one).

[nenjin]

Ah the good old days when people in general actually trusted what talking heads had to say.

[sluissa]

Google daily Doodle reminded me that it's the 100th birthday of Walter Cronkite. Makes me wonder what Uncle Walt would have thought of this election cycle. 

Most of y'all are probably too young to remember Cronkite as a news anchor. He retired when I was still a kid, but would occasionally fill in for Dan Rather or Charles Kuralt when they were on vacation. There was just something about his voice and his demeanor -- it was like being told the news by your grandfather -- (the kind, wise one; not the crazy, racist, "back in my day" one).

I'm a few years too young to remember him before he retired, but he was still an import piece of culture. His voice is unmistakable and I did catch several of the things he did after he retired. It's a simple fact that a large chunk of recorded video history in the form of US TV news broadcasts was connected to him. His face, his voice, overlaying most of the important images through US history.

I'd also heard he was a bit of an asshole in his private life, but that's just rumors, but people often are different from the mask they present to the public.

[RedKing]

There was a book put out by a former employee after his death that claimed that, but it was widely refuted by those who knew him.

[Neonivek]

There was a book put out by a former employee after his death that claimed that, but it was widely refuted by those who knew him.

Which oddly enough... Happens often whether or not what was said was true or not.

Though likely the refutation is accurate.

[Frumple]

That last minute research feeling when you stumble across a bugnut's vote recommendations (for judges, specifically, in this case)* and go, "Yeah, I'm just going to vote the opposite." It really makes some things easier when you find someone that's passionate about the subject but diametrically opposed to your beliefs _{and completely bloody insane, now that I actually read the intro blurb to this madness a bit more instead of just skimming bits.} It's not a 100% metric but it definitely is a pretty effective filter.

*If you really want to see it, look up florida votes values, specifically their judicial retention recs for this election. I wouldn't recommend it, or the rest of the site. It's apparently a place people opposed to contraception, even among married couples, go to to ferment. I'd link, but just glancing over stuff as I flee backwards, information in hand, makes me worried I'd be linking to something violating the forum ToS. Thing's bigoted as all goddamn.

[sluissa]

That last minute research feeling when you stumble across a bugnut's vote recommendations (for judges, specifically, in this case)* and go, "Yeah, I'm just going to vote the opposite." It really makes some things easier when you find someone that's passionate about the subject but diametrically opposed to your beliefs _{and completely bloody insane, now that I actually read the intro blurb to this madness a bit more instead of just skimming bits.} It's not a 100% metric but it definitely is a pretty effective filter.

*If you really want to see it, look up florida votes values, specifically their judicial retention recs for this election. I wouldn't recommend it, or the rest of the site. It's apparently a place people opposed to contraception, even among married couples, go to to ferment. I'd link, but just glancing over stuff as I flee backwards, information in hand, makes me worried I'd be linking to something violating the forum ToS. Thing's bigoted as all goddamn.

The problem with judge retention... is the question of their replacement. Judge might not fit your ideal. But you have to be careful about who they might be replaced with. I always look at the difference between the judge's appointer and the current appointer for replacements.

[PTTG??]

That last minute research feeling when you stumble across a bugnut's vote recommendations (for judges, specifically, in this case)* and go, "Yeah, I'm just going to vote the opposite." It really makes some things easier when you find someone that's passionate about the subject but diametrically opposed to your beliefs _{and completely bloody insane, now that I actually read the intro blurb to this madness a bit more instead of just skimming bits.} It's not a 100% metric but it definitely is a pretty effective filter.

*If you really want to see it, look up florida votes values, specifically their judicial retention recs for this election. I wouldn't recommend it, or the rest of the site. It's apparently a place people opposed to contraception, even among married couples, go to to ferment. I'd link, but just glancing over stuff as I flee backwards, information in hand, makes me worried I'd be linking to something violating the forum ToS. Thing's bigoted as all goddamn.

These people are the American Taliban.

[birdy51]

This election... I pray it ends soon. This has been a horrifying election cycle.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

The fact that you aren't wholly certain it will end soon says more than anything, I think.

[TheBiggerFish]

Next Tuesday...