So I didn't watch the debates. Mom did of course, and is calling it for Trump. She noted that neither one really put up a good showing and that her decision is because Hillary lied about literally everything.
So my question is that since everyone here believes TRUMP was the one lying about everything, if that is the main sticker for who "won" this debate? As someone who considers literally everything BOTH these candidates say to be in a Schrodinger state of lying/true would you guys say I would call it for Hillary based on behavior alone?
Also note that repeating what politifact or anything else says won't sway me because I consider THOSE to be Shrodinger'd as well >.<
What about the places where you can read the records yourself and see where Trump was lying?
Bought and paid for by Clinton Supporters, according to mom. Along with everything else. Which is why I'm so Shrodinger'd on everything.
Basically I know that sounds completely, batshit insane, but on the other hand I can't help but feel that is EXACTLY the kinda shit our government would pull. I mean you actually have Obama riding Clinton around in Air Force One so its obvious who the current establishment WANTS to win, and everything about our government is so fucking shady that "they rigged all the things" is starting to come off as "yeah and what else is new in Tropico?"
Dealing with the lies of your mom is really hard when she can just say "well it was the super shady people that did it", and then you buy that because clearly your mother is an expert on these things. Why does Trump sound insane? It must be the super shady people! It's always them! Behold the mighty establishment, it's everywhere! It's putting fluoride in your water to make you forget!
Tell us when you start worrying about the FEMA camps you'll be herded off to.
That may sound mean, but you just came in here asking for information, and you dismissed what we suggested. What, is every piece of info bought by both the Clinton and Trump campaigns? If not, there are sources you can use to go get informed on right now. If so... If you are going to doubt anything everyone says why do you bother coming here anyway? I mean clearly, most of us are either hired by some shady interest group with literally unlimited funds (and where do they get this money? Their infinite pockets, of course), or too deep in the kool aid to notice. If you actually wanted to be informed you could, you know, actually watch the debate instead of A) Not watching the debate, B) Demanding people you say you distrust tell you how to feel (examples: your mother, us, the media, etc), and C) Disregarding what we say anyway because our sources are clearly bought by special interest groups or otherwise biased. I mean wtf man? If you are so darn skeptical of any evidence we show you watch the debates yourself and make your own judgments, don't let the
media tell you what to think. But no, instead you've come here because... you trust us but you don't trust us? Who do you trust? Do you trust your own senses? Your mother? Us? The media? A certain part of the media? Foreigners? Your Pastor? Anyone?
Cynicism is not a substitute for critical thinking. I'm trying to be nice here but you've been extremely dismissive and seem to approach this more as a game than anything else. I ask: Do you genuinely think that you take an evenhanded approach? Because I'd argue dismissing
both sides of the argument out-of-hand instead of just one is not how you learn about anything.