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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American
« Reply #4350 on: September 19, 2016, 02:10:28 am »

The first debate needs to happen already.
Haven't you heard? There aren't going to be any debates. Trump refused.
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I'm surprised nobody has witnessed the bomber yet. The Boston Bombers were both spotted in one, though people only figured out what they saw after the fact. That's some serious luck.
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« Reply #4351 on: September 19, 2016, 02:28:02 am »

It's hard to remember all the crazy stuff stein has done.  The vaxxing and wifi is the memorable stuff but she is also into russian trolling and printing money as a major form of government revenue.  Oh and how about this gem? https://i.redd.it/4jrl42xo5cmx.png
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« Reply #4352 on: September 19, 2016, 05:02:38 am »

The first debate needs to happen already.
Haven't you heard? There aren't going to be any debates. Trump refused.

Wut?

Also, it just struck me as hilarious that you guys spend all your time dissing Florida as the crasy part, and then let them choose your president.

P.S. Also, can y'all stop saying homeopathy doesn't work? It works. Pretty well even. Just not better than a placebo, but a placebo can be a rather effective thing. Since real doctors can't prescribe them (as they're not allowed to lie to their patient), homeopath give society a great service by delivering sugar pills with an authoritative voice.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American
« Reply #4353 on: September 19, 2016, 05:19:34 am »

P.S. Also, can y'all stop saying homeopathy doesn't work? It works. Pretty well even. Just not better than a placebo, but a placebo can be a rather effective thing. Since real doctors can't prescribe them (as they're not allowed to lie to their patient), homeopath give society a great service by delivering sugar pills with an authoritative voice.

Well, I do suppose homeopathic painkiller abuse is probably better for you than prescription painkiller abuse. Probably better than cough syrup abuse as well. So there's that silver lining!
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« Reply #4354 on: September 19, 2016, 05:24:51 am »

Homeopathy works? even its underlying principle isn't valid, let alone its diluted remedies.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American
« Reply #4355 on: September 19, 2016, 05:41:23 am »

Well, it makes its practitioners money at the expense of people made vulnerable by illness and whatnot. If you think of it as a money making scam instead of medicine (which is closer to the truth of it, so far as I'm aware), then it's working just fine.
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« Reply #4356 on: September 19, 2016, 05:49:50 am »

Eh, I think he's referring to the placebo effect they actually have.
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« Reply #4357 on: September 19, 2016, 05:50:43 am »

That great empty spot below Sheb's post? It's not actually empty.

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« Reply #4358 on: September 19, 2016, 05:54:55 am »

Hey, I was right! I like being right. Gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside.
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« Reply #4359 on: September 19, 2016, 06:01:03 am »

Heh, i need a do'h icon.
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« Reply #4360 on: September 19, 2016, 06:48:07 am »

Didn't notice, heh. Still... fairly wrong, though. Or rather there's a number of other things (we've got this whole vitamin industry that actually does helpful things at times, ferex) that actually do something that could be used for that purpose instead. Instead of relying on an outright scam, and letting fraudsters (or crazy folks/gullible idiots) exploit our population and feed the weaker among us buckets of sodding lies.

Also can remember good ol' homeopathy has a noted inclination towards making the folks that use it and believe it works not go to the goddamn doctor. Or not listen when they do. I'd say most or all of its efficacy at providing placebos is offset by that alone, never mind all the other problems with it. Works isn't the word I'd use.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American
« Reply #4361 on: September 19, 2016, 08:21:07 am »

P.S. Also, can y'all stop saying homeopathy doesn't work? It works. Pretty well even. Just not better than a placebo, but a placebo can be a rather effective thing. Since real doctors can't prescribe them (as they're not allowed to lie to their patient), homeopath give society a great service by delivering sugar pills with an authoritative voice.

Well, I do suppose homeopathic painkiller abuse is probably better for you than prescription painkiller abuse. Probably better than cough syrup abuse as well. So there's that silver lining!
Do you abuse homeopathic drugs by taking less of them?
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« Reply #4362 on: September 19, 2016, 08:29:23 am »

Didn't notice, heh. Still... fairly wrong, though. Or rather there's a number of other things (we've got this whole vitamin industry that actually does helpful things at times, ferex) that actually do something that could be used for that purpose instead. Instead of relying on an outright scam, and letting fraudsters (or crazy folks/gullible idiots) exploit our population and feed the weaker among us buckets of sodding lies.

Also can remember good ol' homeopathy has a noted inclination towards making the folks that use it and believe it works not go to the goddamn doctor. Or not listen when they do. I'd say most or all of its efficacy at providing placebos is offset by that alone, never mind all the other problems with it. Works isn't the word I'd use.

Well, for a placebo to be effective, the person that gives it must be convinced that it's working. When you look at placebo research, it's impressive how much homeopathy is optimized to maximize it.

As for the "replacing real medicine", well, at least around these parts homeopaths are required not to discourage patients from going to real doctor and the like.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American
« Reply #4363 on: September 19, 2016, 08:37:04 am »

I'm having a hard time summoning pity for Hillary Clinton not getting fair treatment from the media, considering the primary.

It wasn't until the New York primary that anyone bothered to ask Bernie Sanders what his plan to break up the banks was.  He already had no chance of winning.

Awww but the media treated poor little bernie bad when they did nothing but talk about how he excited people and americans are unsatisfied with the status quo.

As for the "replacing real medicine", well, at least around these parts homeopaths are required not to discourage patients from going to real doctor and the like.

Well around these parts they bill themselves as an alternative to medicine.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American
« Reply #4364 on: September 19, 2016, 08:49:23 am »



As for the "replacing real medicine", well, at least around these parts homeopaths are required not to discourage patients from going to real doctor and the like.
Well around these parts they bill themselves as an alternative to medicine.

Well, I got to find SOMETHING to feel smugly superior about, no?
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