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[Wolfhunter107]

I am so distress right now.  THIS IS HOW IT ENDS PEOPLE.  RIP AMERIKA.

Not like they're actively punching each other. Also, we've had racous conventions before (DNC 1968 anybody?) and America didn't end then.

Acoustics.

As annoying is this is (and it is pretty damn annoying), this really isn't anywhere as bad as '68. Probably a good thing, since the Democrats lost that year.

[mainiac]

So it wont be as bad as 68.  Trump will just win 48 states.

[Wolfhunter107]

So it wont be as bad as 68.  Trump will just win 48 states.

I think you're overreacting. Yeah, Sander's people are being assholes, but it's not the end of the world. It's not even as bad as the Republican convention, so if Trump can do as badly as he did and still get a post-convention bump, than Clinton will be fine.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

God forbid people have an opinion outside the approved truth of President Clinton.

If this is the general reaction to somebody so much as disagreeing with her, then I really do hope Trump wins.

[mainiac]

I'm exaggerating for comedy a little bit but I'm seriously starting to get scared here.  On April 20th, I would have thought that the party disunity lasting this long was very unlikely.  Deadlines have a way of creeping up on you...

Not to mention that four months ago we were hoping to recapture the house if the economy held steady and Trump stayed dickish.  Now the economy holds steady and Trump is a dick but there's no hope of taking the house.  Fucking liberals always snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

[Wolfhunter107]

God forbid people have an opinion outside the approved truth of President Clinton.

If this is the general reaction to somebody so much as disagreeing with her, then I really do hope Trump wins.

There's a pretty big difference between having an opinion and making yourself into a massive asshole, and these people are clearly doing the latter.

[smjjames]

I'm exaggerating for comedy a little bit but I'm seriously starting to get scared here.  On April 20th, I would have thought that the party disunity lasting this long was very unlikely.  Deadlines have a way of creeping up on you...

Not to mention that four months ago we were hoping to recapture the house if the economy held steady.  Now the economy holds steady and there's no hope of taking the house.  Fucking liberals always snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

Hey now, you're a liberal yourself. More of the 'Hillary liberal' than 'Sanders liberal' though. Besides, the gerrymandering makes it a heck of a lot harder.

Anyway, funny that both conventions still use voice vote only in this day and age.

[mainiac]

Hey now, you're a liberal yourself.

And I hate that we start every race by shooting ourselves in the foot.

[smjjames]

Hey now, you're a liberal yourself.

And I hate that we start every race by shooting ourselves in the foot.

I don't think we shot ourselves in the foot in 2008? Granted though, the primary was a grind fest.

Anyways, Sanders and his campaign (and former staffers) are trying to quell the revolt. http://www.politico.com/live-blog-updates/2016/07/live-from-the-democratic-national-convention-000004#postid=00000156-240e-df11-a37f-f72ff5590000

[mainiac]

I don't think we shot ourselves in the foot in 2008?

No, we saved our powder for 2010 so we could shoot both feet and lose extra hard the year that determined redistricting.

[Wolfhunter107]

Looks like the revolt has mostly calmed down for now. I haven't heard any chanting for the last two or three speakers now.

[mainiac]

Looks like the revolt has mostly calmed down for now. I haven't heard any chanting for the last two or three speakers now.

Sanders used text message!  It's super effective!

[smjjames]

That 100 year old camera they're using is awesome and so full of history.

editwhiletyping: And one of the drawbacks of the camera, no movement because blurred otherwise.

[Frumple]

God forbid people have an opinion outside the approved truth of President Clinton.

If this is the general reaction to somebody so much as disagreeing with her, then I really do hope Trump wins.

Man, this isn't about "so much as disagreeing." People are welcome to have an opinion, of basically all sorts. Disagreement is important, as is expressing it. The thing that's pissing people off here is time and place, as well as means. If this was in a business, you'd be looking at a subordinate starting a shouting match with their project lead in the middle of the work floor, right when an investor tour or somethin' is walking through, as their means for addressing grievances. Maybe even a friggin' contracted subordinate.

If you have, like. Any working knowledge of group interaction, and particularly professional group interaction, that should make it really clear what sort of fuckup folks are calling this. If you give a single shit about the group you're working with, have anything approaching professional ethics, and a whole bunch of other stuff along those lines, it's not how you act. At all.

But hey, maybe bernie and/or the folks that were supporting him don't give a single shit about the group. Maybe they're actively there to sabotage it at this point. That's their prerogative. It doesn't mean folks that do give the least of shits can't be pissed at 'em when they start doing just that, regardless of intent.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

This isn't a business project, it's an allegedly free political party's convention. Anybody who got delegates has the right to speak their mind. There is no "fall in line bro or else" here, and "professionalism" is just a catch-all for "do as I say, not as I do".

But silly me, you're right, it really is a business project. And that is why on election day, I will vote against Clinton with glee. I'll vote against my pre-approved leadership every fucking election until the message starts to stick.