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Author Topic: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: T+0  (Read 1386448 times)

Criptfeind

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« Reply #1200 on: July 25, 2016, 03:55:05 pm »

And didn't you spend months saying that I was just making shit up because I prefered Clinton?

Although I'll forgive you for randomly and inaccurately lashing out at me, it's been understandably stressful being a Clinton supporter against all the 'Bernie Bros', the answer is no.

Someone who actually cared about stopping Trump would have endorsed four months ago and taken the fall for fuckups like this.

This would be a fair enough reason for Bernie to fall in line like a good little democrat, but I hope you realize it's also a incredibly sad and fucked up reason. "We don't matter. The important point is that we stop the other guy. Any one who's not with us supports trump."

The sad fact is, it's not inaccurate. But at the same time it's so fucked up that refusing to go along with it is, I feel at least, worth the price. At least sometimes.
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« Reply #1201 on: July 25, 2016, 03:56:42 pm »

It's the reason Bernie has stated.  I'm just taking him at his word.

the answer is no.

Appologies then.
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« Reply #1202 on: July 25, 2016, 03:58:10 pm »

Jeez. That one guy sounded like he was about to keel over.
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« Reply #1203 on: July 25, 2016, 04:00:07 pm »

So far, seems like Berniebros are still trying to raise hell on the convention. Even going as far as booing Bernie himself, probably for being a "sellout" to "Shillary".
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« Reply #1204 on: July 25, 2016, 04:03:40 pm »

Jeez. That one guy sounded like he was about to keel over.

The Barney Frank guy?

They're just going through procedural stuff right now.

Also, the current thing has two Clinton reps and only one Sanders rep (I think), seems like it would be more fair to have two reps each, but eh.
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« Reply #1205 on: July 25, 2016, 04:04:23 pm »

you know this is i think the problem with America right now and especially republicans. yes, the my belief is more valid they your fact thing. good god it is painful to hear some of these people speak. this is why Donald Trump has so many supporters, they want to believe so much that the actual ugly facts and even the good one sail on by without registering as possibly being true, no mater what.

John Oliver:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNdkrtfZP8I
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« Reply #1206 on: July 25, 2016, 04:05:35 pm »

It's interesting because the idpolwhatever thread has a discussion about how Marx is usually taken as pushing for revolution rather than long-term change, and Sanders seems like one of the revolutionary interpretation folks.

As I've said, I like the stuff he was going on about a lot more than Clinton, I like Bill more than Hillary, he works the southern drawl charm-your-panties-off thing very well, he's sleazy but likeable anyways.

Hillary was clearly going to be the nominee after a certain point, though, and all the "he's pushing for leverage" arguments you can find don't change that he's helping divide and weaken the opposition to Trump. Berners need to get over it, there won't be a magical socialist revolution this year, I know, I'm bummed too, but hurting Hillary is literally helping Trump at this point, isn't it?

I'm not sure there is any overlap between "undecided about Hillary" and "fuck yeah, Emperor Trump" voters, but I'm pretty sure there are a lot of "may as well vote for Johnson or M. Mouse" voters in the former chunk.
Someone who actually cared about stopping Trump would have endorsed four months ago and taken the fall for fuckups like this.
This would be a fair enough reason for Bernie to fall in line like a good little democrat, but I hope you realize it's also a incredibly sad and fucked up reason. "We don't matter. The important point is that we stop the other guy. Any one who's not with us supports trump."

The sad fact is, it's not inaccurate. But at the same time it's so fucked up that refusing to go along with it is, I feel at least, worth the price. At least sometimes.
One guaranteed seat on the Supreme Court, with two possible openings in the next few years is worth how much, I wonder?
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« Reply #1207 on: July 25, 2016, 04:10:51 pm »

It's the reason Bernie has stated.  I'm just taking him at his word.

Maybe I'm just too cynical.

One guaranteed seat on the Supreme Court, with two possible openings in the next few years is worth how much, I wonder?

A fair question that people should be asking themselves, but I don't think it's important enough for to be angry at those that decide the answer is "not enough."
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« Reply #1208 on: July 25, 2016, 04:14:46 pm »

Considering how much of an impact they can have, and how long they can keep having those impacts, in particular I think Berners should be terrified at the idea of Trump getting to pick even one seat, much less if Kennedy or RBG keel over.

Wasn't Citizen's United a big thing for them? Guess how to never get anything done regarding it being overturned.
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« Reply #1209 on: July 25, 2016, 04:25:48 pm »

Funny how the pro-Sanders person on stage still talked about "fixing superdelegate system". What do they want? They haven't decided anything in this election... in fact, Sander's plan for the last few months was to bring them over to his side, so that he can win regardless of losing by all conventional metrics!
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« Reply #1210 on: July 25, 2016, 04:27:14 pm »

"Party Unity"
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« Reply #1211 on: July 25, 2016, 04:28:49 pm »

I'll reserve final judgement until I hear him speak tonight. Sanders has already stated support for Hillary, so I don't foresee him turning into the Cruz of the Democratic party. His supporters on the other hand are going to have to accept what happens, happens. If they can't be brought in, there may be trouble.
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« Reply #1212 on: July 25, 2016, 04:32:36 pm »

I am so distress right now.  THIS IS HOW IT ENDS PEOPLE.  RIP AMERIKA.
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« Reply #1213 on: July 25, 2016, 04:33:45 pm »

Wow do they chant "No TPP" loud. They're actually louder than the speaker. That's amazing.
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« Reply #1214 on: July 25, 2016, 04:36:16 pm »

Funny how the pro-Sanders person on stage still talked about "fixing superdelegate system". What do they want?

Reform, of lots of things.

The fact that they're making progress on reforming the superdelegate system is a good sign though and will help things a bit with the Sanders people.

I am so distress right now.  THIS IS HOW IT ENDS PEOPLE.  RIP AMERIKA.

???

Not like they're actively punching each other. Also, we've had racous conventions before (DNC 1968 anybody?) and America didn't end then.

Wow do they chant "No TPP" loud. They're actually louder than the speaker. That's amazing.

Acoustics.
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