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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American
« Reply #4545 on: September 21, 2016, 05:12:27 pm »

I urge you to look further into the behavior of Jill Stein this year.  I promise you I'm not bullshitting you.  I realize what I'm saying is pretty far fetched sounding but it has happened.  Jill Stein seems to REALLY hate Hillary Clinton.

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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American
« Reply #4546 on: September 21, 2016, 05:13:48 pm »

Isn't that like, her official website too?
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American
« Reply #4547 on: September 21, 2016, 05:15:49 pm »

It... seems a lot more like their strategy (such as it is) is getting in the way of their own (increasingly dissonant/incoherent) idealism, really. Stein has been kinda' off lately.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American
« Reply #4548 on: September 21, 2016, 05:23:23 pm »

Isn't that like, her official website too?

No a tweet she deleted but not before it was screenshotted.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American
« Reply #4549 on: September 21, 2016, 05:23:52 pm »

I'm not voting green this year.  Probably not voting on president at all.  I've seen enough about Jill Stein going off the deep end, even from people who would normally be sympathetic to Green, that I'm sure there's some truth to it.  But I don't have time to do my own research.

But take note that it's that kind of attitude that drives people away from what you want them to do.  Not just you.  But it's pervasive from Democrats in general.  It's every election year, but this one is especially bad.  The kind of people who vote Green do so because they're tired of voting against a bad guy instead of voting for someone that they actually believe represents their political interests, and being shamed as naive, immature enablers of evil for it.  Or labeled low-information gullible idiots for not believing that the Democrat nominee is actually what they're looking for, when there's rarely much effort made to convince them beyond shaming them for not looking at the right sources or digging deep enough to understand all the nuanced political context.  This isn't a way to keep what should be allies.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American
« Reply #4550 on: September 21, 2016, 05:30:38 pm »

Jill Stein literally is praising Vladamir Putin and attending functions with him.  She has never missed a chance to diss Hillary.
Lots of people hate Hillary, and that gallery is just her sitting with Putin.  No sign of "praise".

But... turns out you're kinda right.  Stein didn't criticize Russia's horrific LGBT policy, in fact she touted them as some bastion of "human rights" and "respect".  While saying the USA is... not.  Uh.  Stein has been a big supporter of LGBT rights since as early as 2002, so this is pretty weird and disappointing.

It's especially disappointing since Hillary and Obama both *have* spoken out against Russia's LGBT policies.  Diplomacy has a place, but I don't think she needs to be more diplomatic than Obama.

So dang, that's disappointing.  That's pretty much swinging my decision back to Hillary for now.  Disappointing because I still want to vote 3rd party to protest the broken system.  But I honestly think Hillary's the better candidate, probably.

Stuffing ballots is bad though, even for a poll like that.  This is why we can't have nice things online ):<
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American
« Reply #4551 on: September 21, 2016, 05:33:13 pm »

Isn't that like, her official website too?

No a tweet she deleted but not before it was screenshotted.
I meant the photo galleries.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American
« Reply #4552 on: September 21, 2016, 05:55:53 pm »

Isn't that like, her official website too?

No a tweet she deleted but not before it was screenshotted.
I meant the photo galleries.

Oh yes.  That is her official campaign website where she brags about her russian ties.  It's not just some selective media effect, she chose to portray herself this way...
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American
« Reply #4553 on: September 21, 2016, 06:42:32 pm »

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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American
« Reply #4554 on: September 21, 2016, 06:46:17 pm »

I liked the path of the dead.

You can't have Obama be Aragon and Hillary be Denathor because Obama was president before (god willing) Clinton will be.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American
« Reply #4555 on: September 21, 2016, 07:24:14 pm »

Now you get Anita Sarkeesian/McIntosh saying the same thing, but throwing in 'misogyny', and we all applaud.
Objectively, demonstrably incorrect. At no point has AS said anything about banning anything. Somehow y'all managed to twist "let's talk about this through a feminist social theory lens" into "ban this sick filth!"
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« Reply #4556 on: September 21, 2016, 07:25:37 pm »

But take note that it's that kind of attitude that drives people away from what you want them to do.  Not just you.  But it's pervasive from Democrats in general.  It's every election year, but this one is especially bad.  The kind of people who vote Green do so because they're tired of voting against a bad guy instead of voting for someone that they actually believe represents their political interests, and being shamed as naive, immature enablers of evil for it.  Or labeled low-information gullible idiots for not believing that the Democrat nominee is actually what they're looking for, when there's rarely much effort made to convince them beyond shaming them for not looking at the right sources or digging deep enough to understand all the nuanced political context.  This isn't a way to keep what should be allies.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American
« Reply #4557 on: September 21, 2016, 07:27:18 pm »

+1  :(

Please, look into Jill Stein's ties to Russia and hatred for Clinton.  I'm not exaggerating.  It's pretty fucking weird.  This is not me being unreasonable.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American
« Reply #4558 on: September 21, 2016, 07:34:39 pm »

Have you been to Illinois, LW, because you're a bit too accurate there to just be guessing.
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« Reply #4559 on: September 21, 2016, 08:11:41 pm »

Hmm, if Illinois is the paths of the dead then I guess Chicago is the Stone of Erech? "Gather ye, forgotten denizens of the Third Coast, for now I call upon ye to fulfill your oaths made so long ago to the line of Daley!"
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