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[smjjames]

@Tiruin: He really only cares if you're staying illegally, or are overstaying your visa. But yeah, his immigration plan pretty much amounts to some mixture of "BUILD THAT WALL!" and "DEPORT ALL OF THE ILLEGALS!"

It'll be a while before antything comprehensive gets started.

As long as Trump and Duterte are never, ever in the same room together, everything will be fine. If they do ever meet, it'll either be war or they'll be caught screwing in the cloakroom.

lolwut MSH. They seem to be getting along relatively well atm, but seems to be more of a friendly greeting before things get real.

[Wolfhunter107]

...Well that would be an interesting development.  And also scary.

The worst part is, I'm not even sure which one you're talking about.

[martinuzz]

That's a complete mischaracterization, pedophilic desires are a pathological compulsion, not a sexual orientation. Hence why it can be meaningfully predicted from factors like being an abuse victim, while sexual orientations can't.

Now you are making the same mistake, confusing the two. Pedosexual activity (acting out on the sexual attraction to children) is a pathological compulsion, which not even nescessarily involves being pedophile. There's people who molest children, but are not a pedophile, just a psychopath). Pedophilia (having a sexual attraction to children) isn't, people are born with it, just like they are born with being gay. At least that's how it's taught in social studies and pedagogic studies here in the Netherlands.
We did ban the pedophile 'self-help groups' a few years ago though because they were often used as a platform for pedosexuals.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Once again, I start to see where LW's opinions about Europe come from...

[Tiruin]

Once again, I start to see where LW's opinions about Europe come from...

In part, martinuzz is discussing stuff that are on the same line you just posted Just with a bit more branching from the concept since both terms are being used in the same.

Also isn't LW British?

@Tiruin: He really only cares if you're staying illegally, or are overstaying your visa. But yeah, his immigration plan pretty much amounts to some mixture of "BUILD THAT WALL!" and "DEPORT ALL OF THE ILLEGALS!"

Yay! ...I think?
...Is that building a wall thing still serious or is it more rhetorical campaign speak?

[Reelya]

@Tiruin: He really only cares if you're staying illegally, or are overstaying your visa. But yeah, his immigration plan pretty much amounts to some mixture of "BUILD THAT WALL!" and "DEPORT ALL OF THE ILLEGALS!"

It'll be a while before anything comprehensive gets started.

Seriously people aren't putting two and two together. Clearly, there going to build a wall out of illegals. Firstly, that saves on materials, and secondly, it saves on deportation distance / costs.

[Harry Baldman]

Seriously people aren't putting two and two together. Clearly, there going to build a wall out of illegals. Firstly, that saves on materials, and secondly, it saves on deportation distance / costs.

With the current trajectory it wouldn't be terribly surprising if sometime on the second year of the presidency he did start work on a Wall of Flesh to call an eldritch god of madness to this world so that they can start work on a more perfect union.

[Neonivek]

Ok I want to say this now... WHEN Trump proves without a shadow of a doubt that he is a bad president...

Let us as a community not blame conservatives or republicans.

Even though they clearly blamed Democrats for electing him

[Rolan7]

[Somewhat drunk post fair warning]

That's exactly what the Republicans want, another fall-guy like Bush.  Earlier I predicted that the Republicans would impeach Trump ASAP, and my dad still thinks so, but that's a purely spiteful act.  The Republicans are well able to swallow their pride and let a, let's be honest, completely lost figurehead sit up there and take all the blame.

Really though, he's clearly even less competent than GW Bush.  It's the same setup, with Pence instead of Cheney.  It's honestly a mark of hubris that they even put party hard-liners in as VP, or maybe it's just a backup plan.  They really don't need it with Trump, though, because they could impeach him unbelievably quickly the second he goes too far.

Specifically, my dad's theory is that they'll do the first stage of impeachment, then hold the rest over him as blackmail.  I'm not sure if that makes any sense in reality, my dad tends to go extreme.  It seems unnecessary.  In my opinion they just threaten him, and have their hard-liner as VP waiting to take over if he calls their "bluff".

[Karnewarrior]

That's a complete mischaracterization, pedophilic desires are a pathological compulsion, not a sexual orientation. Hence why it can be meaningfully predicted from factors like being an abuse victim, while sexual orientations can't.

Now you are making the same mistake, confusing the two. Pedosexual activity (acting out on the sexual attraction to children) is a pathological compulsion, which not even nescessarily involves being pedophile. There's people who molest children, but are not a pedophile, just a psychopath). Pedophilia (having a sexual attraction to children) isn't, people are born with it, just like they are born with being gay. At least that's how it's taught in social studies and pedagogic studies here in the Netherlands.
We did ban the pedophile 'self-help groups' a few years ago though because they were often used as a platform for pedosexuals.

Sounds like they got the right of things. It's closer to a mental disorder or sexuality than some kind of villainous choice.

[Loud Whispers]

Once again, I start to see where LW's opinions about Europe come from...

It's like clockwork

[smjjames]

Once again, I start to see where LW's opinions about Europe come from...

In part, martinuzz is discussing stuff that are on the same line you just posted Just with a bit more branching from the concept since both terms are being used in the same.

Also isn't LW British?

@Tiruin: He really only cares if you're staying illegally, or are overstaying your visa. But yeah, his immigration plan pretty much amounts to some mixture of "BUILD THAT WALL!" and "DEPORT ALL OF THE ILLEGALS!"

Yay! ...I think?
...Is that building a wall thing still serious or is it more rhetorical campaign speak?

Loud Whispers is British, yes. And Trump has downplayed the wall a bit saying it'd be more of a fence, but the guy barely has any policy and what policy he does have isn't much different from his rhetoric. So, it's near impossible to know what he'll actually do once in office.

[Ghills]

@Tiruin: He really only cares if you're staying illegally, or are overstaying your visa. But yeah, his immigration plan pretty much amounts to some mixture of "BUILD THAT WALL!" and "DEPORT ALL OF THE ILLEGALS!"

Yay! ...I think?
...Is that building a wall thing still serious or is it more rhetorical campaign speak?

Who knows?  I don't think even Trump knows. He'll do whatever gets the most text-in votes fires up his base and lets him keep pretending to be a reality TV star.

[Ghills]

That's a complete mischaracterization, pedophilic desires are a pathological compulsion, not a sexual orientation. Hence why it can be meaningfully predicted from factors like being an abuse victim, while sexual orientations can't.

Now you are making the same mistake, confusing the two. Pedosexual activity (acting out on the sexual attraction to children) is a pathological compulsion, which not even nescessarily involves being pedophile. There's people who molest children, but are not a pedophile, just a psychopath). Pedophilia (having a sexual attraction to children) isn't, people are born with it, just like they are born with being gay. At least that's how it's taught in social studies and pedagogic studies here in the Netherlands.
We did ban the pedophile 'self-help groups' a few years ago though because they were often used as a platform for pedosexuals.

Sounds like they got the right of things. It's closer to a mental disorder or sexuality than some kind of villainous choice.

Whoa, whoa there.  Yes, there's indications it's partially a mental disorder, but molesting kids is a choice and people who perpetuate this kind of thing should absolutely be held responsible for that.

[ChairmanPoo]

Trump has downplayed the wall a bit saying it'd be more of a fence

What's the point of it all when you're building a wall and in front of your eyes it disappears?