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Author Topic: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: T+0  (Read 1394393 times)

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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #13065 on: November 16, 2016, 07:00:20 pm »

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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #13066 on: November 16, 2016, 07:00:36 pm »

Let's dispel with this fiction that Donald Trump doesn't know what he's doing. He knows exactly what he's doing. He's undertaking a systematic effort to change this country...
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #13067 on: November 16, 2016, 07:02:44 pm »

does that mean you are ditching the queen and joining us yanks whispers?

I still think you have your hands full with Brexit. ;)
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #13068 on: November 16, 2016, 07:13:20 pm »

Now, back to "dangerous Donald"..

The law, says the president may appoint the heads of executive agencies, tasked with various mandates. It does little to restrict his/her choices, by design. (Legislators are very fearful of restricting power for some reason.)

As a consequence of the american electorate being stupid, they have chosen the god emperor of bad investment and corporate malfeasance to that office, and now he is selecting heads of those organizations.

His selections are shamelessly pro corporate corruption, and people are more worried about who they can legally fuck.



Yeah, him being pro-corporation and a corporate shill and arguably corrupt to boot is no surprise, but they still have to pass the Senate. However, Cabinet members aren't rejected all that often, 9 according to this article (it's old, but I was checking about what it takes to confirm a Cabinet member, doubt the requirements have changed since 2001)

Also, Roger Stone predicts that Trump will reach across the aisle and pick some Democrats for some stuff. Reaching across the aisle would be nice, when was the last time a President did that for their Cabinet and other high level positions? Though with the Senate the way it is, I doubt a Democrat would get through, at least not easily.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #13069 on: November 16, 2016, 07:44:14 pm »

Given who is in the senate, I am not very confident about his appointments being rejected.

(It would interfere with the 'no, that doesn't actually happen' quid pro quo if getting cooshy  lobbyist jobs later on, and getiing stinky effing rich by gaming the system, that Republican senators are renowned for.)
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« Reply #13070 on: November 16, 2016, 07:47:37 pm »

Also, Roger Stone predicts that Trump will reach across the aisle and pick some Democrats for some stuff. Reaching across the aisle would be nice, when was the last time a President did that for their Cabinet and other high level positions? Though with the Senate the way it is, I doubt a Democrat would get through, at least not easily.

And what democrat would join a Cabinet with Steve Bannon in it, serving under Mike Pence and Donald Trump?
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #13071 on: November 16, 2016, 07:51:23 pm »

Also, Roger Stone predicts that Trump will reach across the aisle and pick some Democrats for some stuff. Reaching across the aisle would be nice, when was the last time a President did that for their Cabinet and other high level positions? Though with the Senate the way it is, I doubt a Democrat would get through, at least not easily.

And what democrat would join a Cabinet with Steve Bannon in it, serving under Mike Pence and Donald Trump?

A dirty two-bit Dem corporate CEO maybe? (slight ironic reference to Trump himself, lol) The Republicans would outright reject a Democrat anyway.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #13072 on: November 16, 2016, 08:10:58 pm »

He should ask apples CEO. That's pure troll if he does.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #13074 on: November 16, 2016, 10:50:30 pm »

"... and then they all remembered Trump was the most liberal Republican candidate in modern history. The end."
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #13075 on: November 16, 2016, 10:53:09 pm »

Well we knew he wanted to ban lobbyists during his campaign.

As well as foreign campaign funding (hypocritically he benefited from it)
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« Reply #13076 on: November 16, 2016, 10:54:50 pm »

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/donald-trump-lobbying-ban-231534

Wow. That is unexpected.

Not entirely, he's said he'd get that into law for for his first 100 days.

Also, he's meeting with Nikki Haley for... something tomorrow, possibly State Department, that's the rumor, but could be other Cabinet positions. That he's considering her is a bit surprising since she has been pretty critical of him and Trump values loyalty. Maybe he sees something in her besides being a cluster of body parts.

edit: Also, he's meeting with the Japanese PM Shinzo Abe tomorrow, will be interesting how that ends up.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #13077 on: November 16, 2016, 11:09:10 pm »

@the discussion on the protests: There's plenty of other reasons why they're protesting besides the election result, the way he ran his campaign on racism and bigotry dogwhistles for one.

I dunno, literally saying that he thinks Mexican immirgrants are rapists isn't really even dogwhistling anymore. It's not even just whistling; it's outright trumpeting. Taking into consideration his statements and stated policy goals, he's got a full brass band.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #13078 on: November 16, 2016, 11:10:09 pm »

Also, he's meeting with Nikki Haley for... something tomorrow, possibly State Department, that's the rumor, but could be other Cabinet positions. That he's considering her is a bit surprising since she has been pretty critical of him and Trump values loyalty. Maybe he sees something in her besides being a cluster of body parts.
Or maybe he just wants to grab her by the pussy. He may feel a bit of impunity considering he got elected regardless of his stance on that sort of thing.

edit: Also, he's meeting with the Japanese PM Shinzo Abe tomorrow, will be interesting how that ends up.
Maybe to tell him that OUR WORDS ARE BACKED BY NUCLEAR WEAPONS (AND SO CAN YOU!)
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #13079 on: November 16, 2016, 11:45:02 pm »

"... and then they all remembered Trump was the most liberal Republican candidate in modern history. The end."
The messed up thing is that a lobbying ban on administration hires might actually be the exact opposite of liberal in trump's case. You just have to think for a second what sort of folks in the right wing would be willing to make the sort of commitment that article talks about. There's only really two choices, tbh -- corrupt as hell/independently wealthy (which is about as close to the same in GOP aligned folks as you can get, even moreso than for left-wing folks), or idealistic/fanatic. Conceptually someone down to earth that's not either but doesn't care much about future political influence, but, uh. GOP aligned. That might apply to some of their voting base but it doesn't apply to much else.

Anti-establishment (if that) doesn't necessarily entail liberal, unfortunately. By any means.
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