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Author Topic: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: T+0  (Read 1412064 times)

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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #12255 on: November 13, 2016, 02:37:42 am »

I voted for Clinton, but honestly, the hilarious overreactions that some people are having over all this, almost makes it worth it.

Also the unprecedented levels of butthurt among the identity-politics groups is glorious.

At least I have dual citizenship so I can get out if it gets bad.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #12256 on: November 13, 2016, 02:39:43 am »

I voted for Clinton, but honestly, the hilarious overreactions that some people are having over all this, almost makes it worth it.

Also the unprecedented levels of butthurt among the identity-politics groups is glorious.

At least I have dual citizenship so I can get out if it gets bad.

It is seeming less and less funny as it is getting more and more mean spirited.

Then again being happy that someone is genuinely upset has never been something I could laugh at.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #12257 on: November 13, 2016, 02:42:51 am »

I voted for Clinton, but honestly, the hilarious overreactions that some people are having over all this, almost makes it worth it.

Also the unprecedented levels of butthurt among the identity-politics groups is glorious.

At least I have dual citizenship so I can get out if it gets bad.

It is seeming less and less funny as it is getting more and more mean spirited.

Then again being happy that someone is genuinely upset has never been something I could laugh at.

It's called Schadenfreude. Try it sometime, it's cathartic.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #12258 on: November 13, 2016, 03:44:49 am »

I voted for Clinton, but honestly, the hilarious overreactions that some people are having over all this, almost makes it worth it.

Also the unprecedented levels of butthurt among the identity-politics groups is glorious.

At least I have dual citizenship so I can get out if it gets bad.

The idea of identity-politics groups being "other" is constructed and promoted by Trump's side to weaken the liberal coalition.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #12259 on: November 13, 2016, 03:47:58 am »

The idea of identity-politics groups being "other" is constructed and promoted by Trump's side to weaken the liberal coalition.
Tbh it started long before Trump was a thing, back when progressives tried to split into progressives and regressives. Still trying to figure out which is which to this day

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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #12260 on: November 13, 2016, 04:10:25 am »

This election was a perfect storm. No, it is not proof that the left needs to abandon all its supporters and try to become this imaginary working-class union party thing that some people are saying it should be. The "SJW menace" factor didn't do nothing, but given that the victory was so narrow Trump lost the vote but won the election I think had any factor been less fucked it would have been a different story.

-If the Dems hadn't pivoted away from the Rust Belt.
-If Clinton hadn't assumed she'd get affiliation support from white women off the bat.
-If Trump hadn't managed to make himself the hype candidate.
-If Sanders had gotten the nom or the Veep slot.
-If voter apathy hadn't been driven up to over 10 million missing votes compared to the previous elections.
-If Clinton wasn't a fucking reptilian.
-If a single scandal had failed to occur, including basket of deplorables.
-If the FSB had been caught rigging voting machines in Flordia and Michigan.
-If Trump being a sexual predator had become the center of the election through the recordings of his actual words rather than relying on victim testimony.
-If Clinton had just spent every debate trying to quiz Trump on basic aspects of law and political functionality.
-If no DNC leak or Wikileaks being suborned by Russia.
-If not for that one heckler shouting about Pepe and the Clinton campaign actually making a fucking thing out of it, like why, just why.

In spite of all that, it was still Clinton's election to lose, and she fuckin lost it. I told them, I told them all when Sanders got scammed. Abolish the fucking superdelegates and bring on the unity campaigns, purge DNC staff with vampire squid and enter into populist glory.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #12261 on: November 13, 2016, 04:39:25 am »

Ignoring the rust belt when Bill fucking 2-terms Clinton was saying to spend time there makes me mad I defended Clinton's political savvy. Clearly it is limited to actually being a politician, because it doesn't extend to actually running a campaign.

-If not for that one heckler shouting about Pepe and the Clinton campaign actually making a fucking thing out of it, like why, just why.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #12262 on: November 13, 2016, 04:40:31 am »

I voted for Clinton, but honestly, the hilarious overreactions that some people are having over all this, almost makes it worth it.

Also the unprecedented levels of butthurt among the identity-politics groups is glorious.

At least I have dual citizenship so I can get out if it gets bad.

The idea of identity-politics groups being "other" is constructed and promoted by Trump's side to weaken the liberal coalition.

I'm a leftish-liberal who wants nothing whatsoever to do with identity politics. It has hijacked the left wing and turned it into an authoritarian parody of itself. It disgusts me and it should be excised like the cancer it is.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #12263 on: November 13, 2016, 05:10:02 am »

Judging by his Obamacare U-turn, I think when Trump becomes president, he'll flip-flop on pretty much everything he promised during the campaign, the Wall will stay unbuilt, Mexico will keep their money and the extremist side of the GOP electorate will become incredibly assblasted. With both sides of the political spectrum not getting what they wanted, America will become the world's salt superpower.
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« Reply #12264 on: November 13, 2016, 05:20:07 am »

Anyone know how the big financial institutions are responding? I don't mean the stock markets, but talking credit rating.
If in any EU country a rightwing populist like Trump would be elected, it would be immediatly followed by Standard an Poor's dropping the credit rating by at least a whole point. DId they drop the rating for the US yet?
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« Reply #12265 on: November 13, 2016, 05:22:28 am »

There is no way in hell S&P is going to drop the US credit rating after they massively fucked up and were the only one of the big three to drop it during the debt ceiling crisis, which then turned into nothing. If anything, they might raise it back up to AAA once the election day panic is made up for.

Can't be fucking around with the largest economy in the world.
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« Reply #12266 on: November 13, 2016, 05:24:32 am »

It's about time we forbade EU banks to take credit ratings by some foreign company into account anyway.
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« Reply #12267 on: November 13, 2016, 05:26:45 am »

Good luck with that. They've practically got more power over the financial system than any banks do. It all comes down to debt investment in the end.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #12268 on: November 13, 2016, 07:37:34 am »

Anyone know how the big financial institutions are responding? I don't mean the stock markets, but talking credit rating.
If in any EU country a rightwing populist like Trump would be elected, it would be immediatly followed by Standard an Poor's dropping the credit rating by at least a whole point. DId they drop the rating for the US yet?
Ask again in 2-6 months.

So far as stuff like that goes, you kinda have to remember: Trump isn't president yet. He won't be until next year. And he's in a sort of pre-"terrify the living buggery out anyone paying attention" phase, right now, where his human resource decisions are goddamn horrifying but they're not really doing much, yet. There's almost certainly chunks of those sorts of things panicking a bit, but many/most have likely adopted a "wait and see" outlook. After all, trump is a habitual liar, and the GOP control of congress isn't enough to give them free reign (unless they dump the filibuster, in which case pucker up tight and pray).

Surely the worst of it was either puffery, they think, or a politician doing that thing that has been fairly effectively proven to be inaccurate where they were lying about their campaign promises and have no intention of trying to implement just about any of them, or they'll be fine regardless, or the checks and balances in place will keep him and those arrayed behind him from actually fucking the world's economy harder than a rabbit orgy in a woodchipper.

Incidentally, this is where you play a clip of Count von Count laughing.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #12269 on: November 13, 2016, 08:13:36 am »

I voted for Clinton, but honestly, the hilarious overreactions that some people are having over all this, almost makes it worth it.

Also the unprecedented levels of butthurt among the identity-politics groups is glorious.

At least I have dual citizenship so I can get out if it gets bad.
There have been some silly overreactions, and I'm constantly embarrassed by identity-politics groups as well.
There are reasons to be scared though, his actual (current, largely new) promises:
https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/_landings/contract/O-TRU-102316-Contractv02.pdf
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