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Author Topic: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: T+0  (Read 1412143 times)

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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #12090 on: November 12, 2016, 07:01:52 am »
The articles you post from them always seem to have a slant of reporting on terrible things that happen in America, and usually when they're something one would assume was committed by a member of the far-right.
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« Reply #12091 on: November 12, 2016, 07:04:35 am »
Nah I just try to share news that has not been brought up yet. I could have linked an article about the anti-Trump protests turning into riots but it's not like there weren't 10 pages on that news in the thread already.
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« Reply #12092 on: November 12, 2016, 07:10:08 am »
The headline makes you think "Damn Neo-Nazis!" The body doesn't say anything to reassure against that. they just "neglected" to mention it was an african-american who did the shooting.
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« Reply #12093 on: November 12, 2016, 07:11:50 am »
Quote from: Vilanat on November 12, 2016, 07:10:08 am
The headline makes you think "Damn Neo-Nazis!" The body doesn't say anything to reassure against that. they just "neglected" to mention it was an african-american who did the shooting.
No, the subject 'was described as an african american'. That's something different that  'the subject was an african american'.
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« Reply #12094 on: November 12, 2016, 07:12:51 am »
Yeah, there's a difference, but not as much as not mentioning it all, obviously.
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« Reply #12095 on: November 12, 2016, 07:15:37 am »
You assume they purposedly left it out. Perhaps the rumour did not reach our journalist as it did for the article you linked. Or it was considered an unsubstantiated rumour. Maybe 10 people shouted 'it was a black guy', and another 10 said 'we couldn't see the man / woman's race as (s)he drove past.'

Besides, why would the perp's skin colour matter at all? Or why would it matter whether or not is is added to the article? It's not like all black people are leftists, or the committed act is any more or less horrible. By implying that the shooter's skin colour matters at all, you are being racist.

Also, why would the article's title make you think 'damn neo-nazi's'? I think that's just you. The article's title is neutral and descriptive "man shot at anti-Trump protests in Portland". To be quite honest, my first thought was not 'damn neo-nazi's', but rather 'ohnoes, did the police shoot another black guy?' (Don't get me wrong, I'm no BLM supporter, but I do oppose racial profiling.)
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #12096 on: November 12, 2016, 07:39:01 am »
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Also, why would the article's title make you think 'damn neo-nazi's'?
Because the media echo chamber apparently made people think that Trump's victory will result in Neo-Nazis occupying USA, repealing all the Amendments (except for the 2nd one), and banning elections.

Fuck the media.
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« Reply #12097 on: November 12, 2016, 07:55:06 am »
Quote from: Sergarr on November 12, 2016, 07:39:01 am
Quote from: martinuzz on November 12, 2016, 07:15:37 am
Also, why would the article's title make you think 'damn neo-nazi's'?
Because the media echo chamber apparently made people think that Trump's victory will result in Neo-Nazis occupying USA, repealing all the Amendments (except for the 2nd one), and banning elections.

Fuck the media. FTFE
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Not that I don't believe every civil liberty younger than the steam engine is going to be a polite fiction under this sham of a government, but we have a phrase to popularize here.
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« Reply #12098 on: November 12, 2016, 08:22:17 am »
Oh yeah, FTFE indeed.

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« Reply #12099 on: November 12, 2016, 08:25:10 am »
Quote from: Sergarr on November 12, 2016, 07:39:01 am
Quote from: martinuzz on November 12, 2016, 07:15:37 am
Also, why would the article's title make you think 'damn neo-nazi's'?
Because the media echo chamber apparently made people think that Trump's victory will result in Neo-Nazis occupying USA, repealing all the Amendments (except for the 2nd one), and banning elections.

Fuck the media.

Shitty neo-nazis. Every facist regime knows the first step is to ban the guns
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« Reply #12100 on: November 12, 2016, 08:41:56 am »
Quote from: Sprin on November 12, 2016, 08:25:10 am
Quote from: Sergarr on November 12, 2016, 07:39:01 am
Quote from: martinuzz on November 12, 2016, 07:15:37 am
Also, why would the article's title make you think 'damn neo-nazi's'?
Because the media echo chamber apparently made people think that Trump's victory will result in Neo-Nazis occupying USA, repealing all the Amendments (except for the 2nd one), and banning elections.

Fuck the media.

Shitty neo-nazis. Every facist regime knows the first step is to ban the guns

I dunno if you were serious, but that's actually wrong. Nazi gun laws actually deregulated the permit system to remove restriction on non-handguns and make gun licences easier to get (unless you were a jew).
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« Reply #12101 on: November 12, 2016, 08:43:34 am »
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Donald Trump: I may not repeal Obamacare, President-elect says in major U-turn

Was.... was Trump a Democrat plant all along?

He was a liberal before he decided to run as a Republican.

Yep, no surprise that he has started trending liberal now that the rhetoric of the campaign season is cooling down.
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« Reply #12102 on: November 12, 2016, 08:46:53 am »
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« Reply #12103 on: November 12, 2016, 08:47:29 am »
inb4 Trump offers a general pardon to all illegal immigrants
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