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[Spriggans]

CurseKnowledge

A 43.04 43.05 fort praising incompetence

"For centuries, the dwarves stood strong. They held the mightiest kingdoms in Earth, and were feared by all. Their wealth came from precious gems extracted from hard rocks, the stone and minerals they collected from the mountain itself were turned into objects of great beauty. Their skills were unequalled, and their strength in battle legendary..."

-- Known dwarven tale of the Old Days   

Nowadays, these words are only fairy tales told to lazy children to make them sleep easier. Dwarves have become passive, boring and fat. Their decline started with their victory over the goblins, long ago. It made them believe they were so superior to other races that they could do well without working.
Over the years, the dwarves neglected work completely, living a comfortable life burning through the livestocks their ancestors slowly collected.
Modern dwarves are now completely incompetent. Or to be more precise, they are lethargic. They don't see why they would be the only one doing stuff, when others drink all day.

Standing against this deterioration, seven dwarves decided to act !
They painfully learned the basics of some professions, gathered supplies and headed far from the mountainhomes. They built the fortress of CurseKnowledge there, and swore to fight laziness !

But old habits die hard, and lazy dwarves are lazy...
Will dwarfkind rise again ? Or will its boring existence fade out ?
Only you will tell.


Rules :

Spoiler: Rules specific to this thread : (click to show/hide)

   Dwarves are lazy !

• Never assign or unassign a labor off a dwarf (cf Note 1/ for a list of allowed labors).
• Assigning/unassigning hauling and nurses labors is fine. You can do that.
• Whenever migrants come, turn off all labors from them.

   But knowledge makes its way !

• Once per year (so, once per player), you may assign ONE labor on one dwarf. The dwarf can be any dwarf, even one who already has some labors on. Choose wisely, because once the assignment is made, it cannot be changed.
• The starting seven all start with "Novice" in two skills. I already chose the skills, the list can be seen below.
• If a dwarf has had a successful strange mood, they have earned that skill ! You can keep the "automatically assigned" skill turned on. Any other mood doesn't count since it does not turn the skill on upon completion.
• Any children making it to adulthood can choose ONE labor. Once again, the choice is definitive.
• Any dwarf with a labor should be named (either from dorf list or from your own imagination).

   
   And knowledge will prevail !

• If one dwarf dies, its motivation passes on to the other dwarves, who are no longer lazy. The more labors the dwarf had, the more motivation he passes on.
  For example : if, say, a dwarf who was a mason and an architect dies (so, he had TWO labors on), the overseer may assign TWO labors to any dwarf or dwarves. The assigned labors don't have to be masonry and architecture, they can be whatever the player wants. In short, the player can enable two jobs, and no more.
• Yes, it is possible to kill dwarves to acquire the skills you want.
• So basically, the fortress will gain diversity over time, and the number of labors will increase each year.

   Other rules :

• Dwarves can be assigned to the military. There is no limit to how many you assign.
  The thing is, military dwarves find training very exhausting, so they want to rest a lot !
• In your schedules, you must alternate a "1 month of training - 1 month of free time" cycle.
• During their free time, military dwarves must rest. And I mean REALLY rest. Disable every hauling labors from resting military dwarves. They can still build walls / recover wounded / pull levers... Just no hauling allowed. Their muscles are tired (cf Note 2/ for allowed labors).
  
• Military dwarves can still be squaded to attack invaders or whatever during their resting time.
• Nobles. Nobles are not fit for work. Any noble on the "Nobles" screen cannot be assigned any labor. If they have labors, they loose these. Exceptions are : Expedition Leader, Militia Captain, Militia Commander; these are fit for work and can have labors on.

   Notes :
1/  "labors allowed for anyone (but resting military)" = haulings / construction / deconstruction / nursings / pulling levers / cleaning / pushing vehicles
2/  "labors allowed by resting military" = construction / deconstruction / nursings / pulling levers / cleaning / pushing vehicles
3/  If the game becomes too boring, new rules may be added to spice up gameplay.

Spoiler: Boring, usual rules : (click to show/hide)

- 43.04 43.05
- 1 year = 2 weeks maximum.
- When it is your turn, you are PM'd and have 2 days to confirm you are playing. If you don't, your turn is skipped.
- You can take dorf requests, and must accommodate made requests.
- Use notes on your levers.
- Don't doom the fortress.
- Make reports of your progress in this thread.
- init and d.init files must remain vanilla (or at least not affect gameplay, that is 200ish pop cap, and temperature, etc.. turned ON).

Embark :

The embark is a 3x3. It overlaps badlands, savanna, and grassland. There's a necro tower nearby.

Spoiler: Embark (click to show/hide)

List of non-lazy dwarves :

The Founding Seven :

Name	Skills	Status
Catten	Miner / Engraver	Alive
Spriggans	Carpenter / Weaver	Alive
Imic	Mason / Stone Crafter	Dead (work accident)
McGee	Grower / Brewer	Alive
Bembul	Cook / Architect	Alive
Gwolfsky	Clothier / Mechanics / Bookbinder	Dead (work accident)
TheFlame52	Armorsmith / Weaponsmith	Dead (work accident)

Other dwarves :

Name	Skills	Status
Sanctume	Metalcrafter	Alive
Gwolfsky2	Mechanics	Alive
Imic2	Mason	Alive
TheFlame52_2	Furnace Operator	Alive
MoonyTheHuman	Wood cutter	Dead (work accident)
Sibrek Akrulmorul	Glassmaker	Alive
Girlinhat	Plant gatherer	Dead (work accident)
Kumil Larducim	Mechanics	Alive
Amost Naniroslan	Clothier	Alive
Rovod Timnarobok	Wood-cratfer	Alive
Tirist Dodokilun	Plant processor	Alive

Skills-less named dwarves :

Name	Usage	Status
CodyRex	AxeDwarf / Militia commander	Alive

Dorf list : Sanctume - a dwarf who does the most minimal labor Rex - A military dwarf Erin Quill - A human. Give him cotton paper if possible ReynTheLord - A Miner/Swordsdwarf The turn list : Legend : Done Current Skipped Gwolfsky write up Gchristopher 1 2 3 4 onemoreminer Anybody feeling like he wants to play ! Year labor changes : Gwolfsky's turn : Added Bookbinding on Gwolfsky Gchristopher's turn : Added Mechanics, and killed swapped a bunch of labors Current save : End of second turn

[Gwolfski]

dorf me as the mechanic

I have an idea, pick the spot on the map by randomly pointing a finger -- incompetent, lazy mapmakers.

[Imic]

Dorf me as dwarf three else that you need. He wants to bring back the old dwarf ways... But is too fat to do much about it. This fort will change that... I hope.

[Spriggans]

Alright, I updated the OP. The save is in there.
It's time to play, Gwolfsky, you're up for first year
According to the rules, you can assign one job during your... reign.

[Imic]

*looks at the dwar-
three I said! THREE!
Sorry.

[Spriggans]

*looks at the dwar-
three I said! THREE!
Sorry.

Fixed !

[gchristopher]

For the first year, you might want to considering allocating a few extra labors, maybe to migrants. (Maybe one or two per migration wave, but only to dwarves in that wave?) In particular, consider the following with no one to do them (and only one choice for the first player, short of murdering the starting seven):

- Wood Cutting (!!!)
- Wood Burning
- Plant Processing
- Plant Gathering
- Butchery
- Furnace Operating (!!!)
- Pump Operating (If there's an aquifer, which every good embark should have.)

• Military dwarves can be limitless. Use as many as you want, you can remove them from military too.

No way! Military service is the opposite of laziness. Putting a dwarf in the military should cost one of your labor picks!

[zukar]

 
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No way! Military service is the opposite of laziness. Putting a dwarf in the military should cost one of your labor picks!

I think that would be a bit too difficult, instead military dwarfs should basically have the same system as the labor picks. So 1 military dwarf + 1 labor dwarf each year, with the other rules also applying.

[Spriggans]

The embark is aquifer-less But it has sand ! ^^

For the first year, you might want to considering allocating a few extra labors, maybe to migrants. (Maybe one or two per migration wave, but only to dwarves in that wave?) In particular, consider the following with no one to do them (and only one choice for the first player, short of murdering the starting seven):
- Wood Cutting (!!!)
- Wood Burning
- Plant Processing
- Plant Gathering
- Butchery
- Furnace Operating (!!!)
- Pump Operating (If there's an aquifer, which every good embark should have.)

Amongst all these, the only really needed one is Furnace operating I believe.
I embarked with 30ish wood. It is enough to get a dormitory going. You don't need wood for anything else, and you can always ask the caravans to bring some.
Steel maybe ? Duping steel is not against the rules, so you need only some to get started.
Right, wood will be needed for advanced machinery, but this is not done in the first year.
If I was playing first, I would definitely take Furnace Operating first. Butchery second maybe, then wood-cutting.


I you believe it's too hard, maybe we can alter the rules : Every fey/secret mooded dwarf can keep his skill ?

No way! Military service is the opposite of laziness. Putting a dwarf in the military should cost one of your labor picks!

That's very right. We must consider special rules for the military then ! Let's see :
- Dwarves can be assigned to the military. There is no limit to how many you assign.
- The thing is, military dwarves find training very exhausting, so they want to rest a lot !
- In your schedules, you must alternate a "1 month of training - 1 (2?) month(s) of free time" cycle.
- During their free time, military dwarves must rest. And I mean REALLY rest. Disable every hauling labors from resting military dwarves. They can still build walls / recover wounded / pul levers... Just no hauling allowed. Their muscles are tired.
- Military dwarves can still be squaded to attack invaders or whatever during their resting time.

Does that seem legit ?

[Fleeting Frames]

Fey/Secret moods don't alter too much, being that only 3 more skills in addition to already-enabled stonecrafting would be found over the course of the fort.

What's this about being too difficult, though?

*looks at embark*

Abandon all surface, ye who enter here.

Heh. But lets hope Gwolfski makes zombie/goblin-safe entrance. I believe he does have experiences with both recently after Breadbowl and Bloodyhells.

With that given, it doesn't seem like none of gchristoper's list is necessary for survival. There is nothing that needs to be metal unless you plan on making a military, and even ignoring carpenter and wood brought, beds are "nice to have" - lazy dwarves can sleep on the floor. With miner in starting 7, thin aquifers can be pierced with a cave-in - if there was an aquifer and most of the rest is just superfluous (grower in starting 7) food industry stuff. I think plant processing or spinning is probably perhaps most significant out of those few years in if clothing starts to wear out.

Question, here: Does construction/deconstruction go under hauling or need individual assignment?

- In your schedules, you must alternate a "1 month of training - 1 (2?) month(s) of free time" cycle.

Bleh, I'm too lazy to spend effort to set up barracks/schedule. Pass on the military/surface

Still, it could be useful if dwarves are complaining about worn clothes - no uniform, replace clothes, less bad thoughts.

[Gwolfski]

Starting tommorrow

[Gwolfski]

So much iron ore, not enough normal rock. Limotine doors, here I come. I'm too lazy to find normal rock...

[Gwolfski]

welll sh*t. Imic got a mood. we need a new mason... unless.... no, I can't do that

edit: Nearly finished this year. No chance I could do two years?

[Imic]

What did I claim? What supplies did i use?

[Gwolfski]

a single limestone boulder. You made a throne, check back in 5 minutes, ill get you the ddescription.

Also, i think we got a door-to-door salesman. A human came, left a book about some city, telling us we should visit it..