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[Untrustedlife]

Moore's law is basically dead at this point due to the whole "physics" thing. Memory size increases don't have much to do with it anyway, that's all determined by breakthroughs in technology, which are happening pretty regularly.

(Moore's law is specifically about transistors per square inch on integrated circuits, so breakthroughs in technology definitely aren't counted there)

intel disagrees.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2017/01/05/ces-2017-moores-law-not-dead-says-intel-boss/

So does the company that presented in one of my junior level comp sci courses at my university last semester.
Lots of cool stuff happening now.
Though maybe it doesn't exactly fit definition now, they are just shoving in additional processors now. If you discount the breakthroughs that are happening.

also:
https://semiengineering.com/moores-law-a-status-report/

[PlumpHelmetMan]

I don't meant to be rude, but can we put the Moore's law discussion to rest? Seems to me that we're getting a bit off-topic.

[LordBaal]

Let us discuss Urist's law instead. The number of dead elves in a dense fortress doubles approximately every two years.

[KittyTac]

I'm for moving it to another subforum. The off-topic one.

[ZM5]

Will the raws of procedurally generated creatures - titans, angels, forgotten beasts, etc. - eventually interact more with the other creature raws?

I noticed demons occasionally are made out of modded materials - would it be possible then to have procedurally generated creatures that derive from other files? I.e sometimes instead of an FB thats a "cat with three eyes and a tail" you'd have a giant gorlak made out of iron with horns, or a gargantuan dwarf with chitin instead of skin, eye stalks and antennae.

[Derpy Dev]

Will the raws of procedurally generated creatures - titans, angels, forgotten beasts, etc. - eventually interact more with the other creature raws?

I noticed demons occasionally are made out of modded materials - would it be possible then to have procedurally generated creatures that derive from other files? I.e sometimes instead of an FB thats a "cat with three eyes and a tail" you'd have a giant gorlak made out of iron with horns, or a gargantuan dwarf with chitin instead of skin, eye stalks and antennae.

Or a deadly-dust spewing hydra made of steel.

Enjoying your nightmares?

[KittyTac]

Will the raws of procedurally generated creatures - titans, angels, forgotten beasts, etc. - eventually interact more with the other creature raws?

I noticed demons occasionally are made out of modded materials - would it be possible then to have procedurally generated creatures that derive from other files? I.e sometimes instead of an FB thats a "cat with three eyes and a tail" you'd have a giant gorlak made out of iron with horns, or a gargantuan dwarf with chitin instead of skin, eye stalks and antennae.

Or a deadly-dust spewing hydra made of steel.

Enjoying your nightmares?

Cave-in traps kill anything but ghosts, but good luck aiming one of those correctly.

[ZM5]

Will the raws of procedurally generated creatures - titans, angels, forgotten beasts, etc. - eventually interact more with the other creature raws?

I noticed demons occasionally are made out of modded materials - would it be possible then to have procedurally generated creatures that derive from other files? I.e sometimes instead of an FB thats a "cat with three eyes and a tail" you'd have a giant gorlak made out of iron with horns, or a gargantuan dwarf with chitin instead of skin, eye stalks and antennae.

Or a deadly-dust spewing hydra made of steel.

Enjoying your nightmares?

That's not a nightmare, thats a dream. An unholy badass monstrosity of a dream but still a dream.

[Shonai_Dweller]

In your talk today, you started to talk about the major difficulties that you have to overcome and concluded that skipping another 1000 years after playing for a bit (returning to worldgen) is 'pretty hard'. I certainly think you're right in that lots of people want to see this someday, but is it something you think you're going to attempt one day or by 'hard' do you mean you just can't conceive of how you might even attempt such a thing?

Great talk, loads of cool mythgen (and beyond) stuff. AI panel afterwards is interesting too.
https://youtu.be/L67Xb4tgVv8

[PatrikLundell]

Thanks for the link, Shonai_Dweller.

[Shonai_Dweller]

Thanks for the link, Shonai_Dweller.

No problem. I'm sure it'll be posted in the devblog when Toady gets back. Just wanted to put this question up since he brought up the subject and it gets requested quite often.
Just wasn't sure if he was saying 'this stuff's all difficult but we're gonna solve it all' or 'this stuff's difficult but doable because it's all linked in logical order, but whatever you do, don't try going backwards, that just doesn't work'.

[PatrikLundell]

My understanding is that Toady said it's tricky and they haven't figured out how to solve it. In my opinion it is a problem that's possible to solve, but whether it's worth the effort of doing it is another matter that probably requires side project investigations to determine.

[PlumpHelmetMan]

Will we ever be able to name our adventuring parties, at least once they acquire enough members? Fellowship of Urist's Glorious Cheeses FTW!

TBH not sure whether this belongs here or in the suggestions thread.

[Beag]

1. I noticed that in the screenshots of the myth generator information pertaining to individuals of a particular race's fates, such as if they have free will, their fates are predetermined or if some other entity controls their fates. How will this translate into game play? For example if dwarves fates are predetermined to what extent is it predetermined? Are the destined to die a certain way or are their entire lives mapped out? Also how will this mesh with the player and their inevitable random actions in the event they play a member of that race in adventure mode?
2. In terms of who acquires magical abilities could factors other than blood line influence whether or not a creature has certain magical powers in some worlds? For example if they were born under a full moon or on magical land.

[PatrikLundell]

@Beag:
2: There are many ways in which fantasy bestows magic abilities, and DF seems to strive to provide as many ways as reasonable. Living under a certain sphere influence ("magic land") ought to be one way, bestowed by a deity/demon or magic feature (such as a magic rock) another. A full moon birth or other astrological circumstances could be another, provided some rationale for it can be provided by the myth generation. Hard work (a.k.a. "study" and "research") is definitely a possible route as well.