Remember Nigel "IS" one of the faces of Brexit and has control over a portion of the UK.
Wow, you actually thought I forgot who are based Nige was o_O
That's like trying to remind democrats that Obama is their face. However unlike Obama, Nigel has never had control over a portion of the UK. You may not be aware, but political control of the country is firmly in the hands of the Conservatives, Labour and various Celtic Nationalist parties. Nigel has never held any form of control in the UK (not for lack of trying mind you, it's simply the case that our electoral system presents a difficult challenge for parties like UKIP), and is not even leader of UKIP anymore. I don't even know what a face of Brexit is, that is a vapid statement that doesn't really mean much ~o.O~
I might joke, but it is highly relevant to understanding the political environment surrounding it. That her issues with citizenship might not be met with sympathy.
You might joke, yet where is the joke? All you did was make a an out of context reference in substitution of humour.
Belgium is a non-country, that is a joke. For the brief centuries in which Belgium has existed it has been accepted and the brunt of jokes for not being a real country, Belgium is a state, but not a nation - thus, all nation-states ridicule it. There is no such thing as a "Belgian," rather Belgians are Flems, Walloons, Germans and Arabs. The Flems in the north, the Walloons in the south, the Germans in the east and the Arabs in the cities, the whole thing is an artificial state constructed as a buffer state between France, the Netherlands and Germany whose sole existence renders it a meme country.
"Il n'y a pas de Belges," said the Walloon politician Jules Destree
in 1912. Belgium is a state created to serve the purposes of Empires that don't even exist anymore, to what extent it could even be said to be a state is debatable.
That wasn't his joke however.
Nigel Farage to President van Rompuy: You have the charisma of a damp rag, and the appearance of a low-grade bank clerk. And the question that I want to ask, that we're all going to ask, is who are you?
I've never heard of you. Nobody in Europe's ever heard of you.
I would like to ask you President, who voted for you? And what mechanism? Oh I know democracy is not popular with you lot.
And what mechanism do the people of Europe have to remove you? Is this European democracy? Well I, well I said so, that you're competent, and capable, and dangerous, and I have no doubt that it's your intention to be the quiet assassin of European democracy and of the European nation states. You appear to have a loathing for the very concept of the existence of nation states, perhaps that is because you come from Belgium, which of course, is pretty much, a non-country. But since you've took over, we've seen Greece reduced to nothing more than a protectorate, sir, you have no legitimacy in this job at all, and I can say with confidence, that I can speak on behalf of the majority of the British people in saying; we don't know you, we don't want you, and the sooner you're put out to grass - the better.
This was in the European parliament and was sparked by the appointment of Herman van Rompuy to President of the European Council unanimously in a secret meeting at Brussels. Nigel Farage makes fun of the fact that nobody knows who van Rompuy is and the fact that he looks like a low-grade bank clerk, which is probably because he rose to power after working in the Belgian central bank, yet in spite of this was now in charge of directing the political agenda for an entire continent of peoples. The main crux of the issue is that secret meetings do not a President make, and its ridiculous to have unelected Presidents appointed in secret meetings by elite councils supposedly representing democratic nation states, hence why he's the quiet assassin working to take away sovereignty from democracy.
As a reward for destroying so much of Europe he was well compensated, his money persisting long after he stopped doing anything. It is symbolic really that Greece, the cradle of Western civilization and democracy, is now today synonymous with destitution, decay and hegemony.
To understand the political environment as to why her citizenship issues are not met with block-headed sympathy, it's because there is little to nothing to sympathize with. What's wrong with her life? Is she poor? No, she's a cambridge grad software engineer born into the world with oil money. Is she alone? Nope, happily married and her kids have already spread their wings well into the world. Is she being deported from her home? Nope, her fear is she'll have to wait in a longer queue at the airport, a fear that isn't even founded.
How did she land in such a devastating dilemma? She never applied in the entirety of her 23 years stay in the only place she calls home for citizenship. I would have more sympathy if she was not already so wealthy and well-connected that even an MP is working on her behalf to sort out the shitfest of bureaucracy normal people deal with without recourse. Her issues also have nothing to do with Belgium, she is from the Netherlands, which is a real country.
Sheb is referring to a different case regarding how Belgium obviously can't deport Belgian citizens, because you can't deport your own citizens unless you're Stalin or have a penal colony. I'm pretty certain both Stalin and penal colonies no longer exist.
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