That smug article goes right to what Bill was saying the whole time apparently. "Court the disaffected middle class whites, don't treat them as easy wins" and oh look, the First Almost-Dude was right.
Seems like Bill's all right
Though the alt-right and the /pol/ sections of it are full of the same smug in a different flavor with all their talk about red-pilling and whatnot, so the real lesson is: if ur waifu is a person then ur waifu a shit cause people a shit.
I disagree, different phenomenon entirely
alt-right aren't smug, they're degenerate, and /pol/ isn't smug, they're hateful. There was only one side that had millions of people lauding their own degrees, own wealth, at the poor idiots (in the USA I love the Bernie Sanders campaigners who coined the term "low information voter" for African Americans who voted Clinton or Trump, as if they only needed to know the obvious truth that they were too stupid to vote in their own interest). The scale and symptoms do not compare - the alt-right and /pol/ are tiny fringe communities with vastly disproportionate shitposting power to their population, similar to CTR and SJWs - differences noted in how they operate differently, one through dank memes and the other through social media activism for example. The issue of smugness is not one addressed to fringe groups of SJWs or /pol/ wherein we can make BBC certified impartial slates of both groups as impartial third party bystanders, it is one addressed to liberals. Normal people, millions of them, once the majority in the West - maximum smug. Yesterday alone I had to put up with multiple monologues and diatribes about how female voters in America are full of internalized misogyny, are voting against their interest, how African Americans are voting against their interest, how terrible the UK is (but still far superior to US liberals, even in defeat virtue signal), got text messages from people curled up in foetal balls asking me if my country was as retarded as the USA; my most interesting conversation was someone who'd come from Canary Wharf. We didn't talk of where our political views lay with Brexit, or for that matter the US elections, what we talked about was how remarkable it was that
everyone was unanimous in their opinions.
So when I went to SW England a few years ago (before the European parliamentary votes) there were massive UKIP signs spread out from hill to hill, whilst back at home the great contest was between social liberals, social democratic liberals or liberals, everyone concurring that the European Union was the best thing ever :
P. Unanimity based on geography. But one thing I did notice was that all the people in the countryside were honest workers, working in salons, docks, farms, shops, transport, engineering, real salt of the earth; a few thought it amusing my accent didn't match with my ethnicity and showed me especial hospitality, and they treated themselves with humility. I contrast that with some of my best friends who are liberals and they genuinely believe that liberals are more qualified to know what's best for their countrymen than their countrymen. Their success, intellect and power grants them status, status not tempered by British humility, because British humility is not European and so never learned :[
One thing that article did really well was talk on how the comedy catered to liberals illustrated more about them than the targets of satire. No longer about making yourself laugh and hurt, it became about laughing at someone else to rally liberals around their own superiority. I had a great chuckle watching the transition of Mock the Week, where a bunch of socially liberal comedians did just that - mock the news of the week. Absolutely fantastic, wonderful, then the comedians started getting old and they replaced them with socially liberal comedians of a much younger, smugger generation. It felt bizarre seeing comedians ask "how do we ban UKIP", no setup or punchline, and the audience laughing in support. ~o.o~
Is liberalism conducive to smugness, or is the fact that most liberals are elite that lends them to smugness? Don't know honestly, all I do know is that it's done a lot to kill them
P.s. no ur waifu a shit
Poor poor majority, so abused, so unloved. All alone in this world with their majority, if only they could be like the completely respected minority. I mean no one says anything bad about Hillary Supporters and Stayers.
See what I mean about this smug, it's just repulsive to normal people
Which is this sort of circular thing isn't it?
Stayers: Dang it leavers stop being so racist!
Leavers: Dang it Stayers stop abusing us!
Stayers: Dang it Leavers stop being such wimps!
Leavers: Dang it Stayers stop being such jerks!
It is almost like no one is looking good here... and no I am not going to play who was worse.
This has never happened
Because as with the Trump campaign there were very important issues brought up and while Anti-Trump was "Your Racist!" the Pro-Trump was "What racism?"... Mostly because they believed if they acknowledged it on any level it would invalidate them.
I'm pretty certain that wasn't the case but I don't want to get into that in Brexit thread
I'll just say this, cos your argument is very applicable to Brexit, back when the socialists and conservatives were eroding away at the liberals, the liberals still held media and state dominance, and had immense power in narrative control within the city. The moment you answer to your opposition is the moment your opposition controls your narrative, and of course they're going to tear you apart. They say
your whole argument is the issue. Not only are you wrong, you're morally wrong, and you're now on the backfoot defending yourself against a smug opponent escaping scrutiny. Did Remain address the concerns of ethnic minorities voting to Leave? No. Did Remain address the concerns of the working class voting to Leave? Again, no. Because they did not want to disrupt their narrative of the enlightened versus the ignorant. Before Remain, there was Cameron, there was Brown, Blair and the important issues we're talking about today, they never took seriously,
and whilst they showed such smiles for the camera, they showed their contempt in sincerety when caught unaware. Fucking hell, I've not met a single supporter of Corbyn or May who suggested taking away the voting rights of vulnerable groups, nah that's not beyond liberals, fuck old people, fuck poor people. Don't even get me started on the whole regrexit saga, of liberals genuinely trying to make the case that millions of people were too stupid to vote and thought "Leave the European Union" meant "Stay in the European Union."
A great exception in leadership I think was Nick Clegg, who never gave off that smugness, despite being talented and literal aristocracy he seemed humble enough, and had the gall to actually apologise for being such a failure to the public, which despite ending his career made me respect him more in retirement than service. Indeed in a better world he wouldn't have been such a failure and the liberals of UK could've unsmugged themselves, but towards the end even he became smugged. I still remember the hilarious slogan the LD used before getting absolutely slaughtered in GE, of how they'd add a brain to labour and a heart to conservatives. Well done at pissing off everyone eh? :
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