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[martinuzz]

"How mr. Reginald Darwin, leader of the vote leave campaign in Downe, Kent, GB views things"
http://www.volkskrant.nl/foto/collignon-2~p4368444/4129998/

[Max™]

Though, I do feel in the sake of fairness to us ignorant Americans, EllDubs, you did provide a link to a HuffPo story without ironic intent, not that Neo was right or anything, mostly it's just an amusing thing to tease you about, and maybe will help others consider checking their own local blind spots before shitposting.

[Neonivek]

Thought Max was taking Pot Shots at me... I am keeping my post but I am putting it in spoilers for your safety.

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maybe will help others consider checking their own local blind spots before shitposting.

I've learned my lesson.

The UK has absolutely no racism whatsoever. Everyone loves their foreigners and the reason why foreigners get brought up during Brexit is because they believe with the current levels of immigration they will be unable to accommodate, provide jobs, and provide lodgings for so many people.

It also is a strongly united people who consider their Scottish, Welsh, Irish, and English as brothers in arms having no denominations based on geography, culture, or income.

I was being a jerk for suggesting anything less.

Edit: Hmm not sure if I was being pleasantly ironic... or annoying. So Spoiler away! I don't like being jabbed at. If this post is just gonna annoy people... drop me a PM and I'll get rid of it.

[Max™]

I was actually jabbing at LW because that particular post amused the hell out of me when I moused over the link.

[Neonivek]

I was actually jabbing at LW because that particular post amused the hell out of me when I moused over the link.

Ohh... Opps! uhhh... I'll spoil my entire post then.

[Sheb]

Neo, it's not that you're wrong, it's that you come in, make assumption without source or anything (because if you provide source, you might get a discussion?) and then expect people to take your seriously.

[Sheb]

A safe space? :p

In other news, falling sterling cause marmite and Ben&Jerry shortage. Well, not exactly shortage: the produce wants to raise price to reflect higher price of imported inputs and supermarkets don't want that.

[Radio Controlled]

In other news, falling sterling cause marmite and Ben&Jerry shortage. Well, not exactly shortage: the produce wants to raise price to reflect higher price of imported inputs and supermarkets don't want that.

Alternative source for those (like me) that can't access the article: BBC: Tesco removes Marmite and other Unilever brands in price row

More on the parliament pushback:

Brexit case 'of fundamental constitutional importance'
The need for Parliament to give its approval before the Brexit process starts is of huge "constitutional importance", the High Court has heard.

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QC Lord Pannick said the case "raises an issue... concerning the limits of the power of the Executive".
The High Court is considering whether ministers can invoke Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty, the trigger for formal talk, without MPs passing a new law.
Critics said it was a "naked attempt to steal the referendum by the back door".
Ministers argue they are entitled to act under ancient powers of Royal Prerogative.

Prime Minister Theresa May has said she will activate Article 50, formally notifying the EU of the UK's intention to leave, by the end of next March. This follows the UK's decision to back Brexit in June's referendum by a margin of 51.9% to 48.1%.
The EU's other 27 members have said negotiations about the terms of the UK's exit - due to last two years - cannot begin until Article 50 has been invoked.
The judicial review, due to conclude on Monday, is being heard by the Lord Chief Justice of England and Wales, Lord Thomas.
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Take a look at anti-immigration and/or nationalist groups historically, and you will frequently find anti-LGBT behavior bundled in with that.
I don't want to Godwin this, but the best-known example began with an N, and rhymes with Yahtzee.
Look at the right-wing nationalists in Russia, in Hungary, in Poland.
And from what I've seen, most of the Brexit anti-Europe sentiment stems from the Right, not the Left.

So, 'general shitheads feeling empowered' then, you think. Fantastic.

Yeah the pro-EU MPs will listen to their pro-Brexit constituents. That is why they want to stop Brexit. To listen to their pro-Brexit constituents. They know that all those who voted for Brexit really want the EU. They're smartasses like that, fuck that noise, May has it on point

Even if they wouldn't be allowed a vote to prevent it from happening, that doesn't mean they couldn't be involved in the process. After all, the only thing the ref polled about is whether to leave or not, not under what circumstances or what type of new deal to strife for. It's not like the Leave campaign had a unified voice, so it's not like people voted for a concrete plan.

Next to that, if you think British politics has gotten to a point where elected officials no longer represent their constituents, then whether or not the UK is part of the EU seems like the least of its problems. Fighting the symptoms vs the disease, unless it's just on this specific matter that this happens.

Reported allegations have increased, conviction rate remains at 1% for accusations, as collected by LGBT charity Gallup and not police stats
I is sckeptical

Like someone else said, conviction rates for accusations can remain the same while absolute numbers go up. Next to that, suppose that police stats don't increase, what would that mean? Either the police, Galop or the people filing complaints would be outright lying, or the victims don't report most incidents to the police for some reason (eg cause they don' think they could really prove what happened in court or don't want to face the hassle) while still reporting to Galop.

Here's a quote from the article:

Four in five respondents to the Galop report, released today, say they have experienced hate crime. However, only a quarter reported the last hate crime they experienced, suggesting a gap in the data collected by police and government departments. The report, based on a survey of 467 LGBT people, shows low satisfaction with the police, with half of those who reported a hate crime to them feeling unsatisfied with the outcome.

[Sheb]

Here we go again. Sturgeon announce new Scotxit referendum.

[RedKing]

Here we go again. Sturgeon announce new Scotxit referendum.

FREEEEEDOMMMMM

[Leafsnail]

The Tesco vs Unilever battle seems like a bit of a sideshow. Prices will go up, nultinationals aren't just going to absorb losses for us out of the goodness of their hearts.

[hector13]

Here we go again. Sturgeon announce new Scotxit referendum.

Naw she didnae, she announced a consultation to a bill that might lead to a second referendum.

I would suggest she's just being prudent, but I may be slightly biased in the matter.

[Dorsidwarf]

The Tesco vs Unilever battle seems like a bit of a sideshow. Prices will go up, nultinationals aren't just going to absorb losses for us out of the goodness of their hearts.

The point being that Tesco refused to raise prices because cheapness and tiny margins is their by-word

[Starver]

And battling a big overarching mega-corporation like Unilever might be seen as better than (and thus perhaps make up for) their past battles to drive down consumer costs by battling the multitude of little-guy suppliers like the farmers (dairy,meat, vegetables, etc) in recent times...

ETA: "Hard Brexit or No Brexit" is the current message from Europe.  Perfectly understandably, probably will end up as "Crunchy Brexit" after 'face-saving' negotiations on both sides where it's still not anything like what anybody wants but each can claim they clawed something back from the mess...

(Roll on WWIII, to make the whole thing moot? November 8th is first up on the agenda...)

[hector13]

I'm not sure the EU has anything to save face about. The UK got quite a bit of special treatment while they were in the EU, and I don't think EU leaders want the precedent for a country leaving to be that the leaver gets a good deal.