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[Neonivek]

Given that the UK basically controlled the EU due to its Germany-UK coalition (or whatever it was)

I honestly wonder how it will personally do things differently.

My personal bias?: The UK will do nothing differently

[Sheb]

Where does this "pollster predicted Bremain" meme come from? All the polls average showed both camps neck-to-neck in the days before the elections, but it seems the Brexit crowd had to rewrite the past to make it seem more like a victory or something.

[Starver]

If we all give up on quality posting then we'll all just start parroting propaganda without verification

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Anyway, hooray!  Now Brexit apparently means that all those European laws that nobody (sic) liked are going to be enshrined into UK law! Just what everybody wanted, wait what..?

[Neonivek]

If we all give up on quality posting then we'll all just start parroting propaganda without verification

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Anyway, hooray!  Now Brexit apparently means that all those European laws that nobody (sic) liked are going to be enshrined into UK law! Just what everybody wanted, wait what..?

It is almost like there was some sort of scapegoating going on

[scriver]

Having the legislation in UK law still means that it can be changed by the UK in the future. If you don't like the legislation, that's still a net gain.

[Loud Whispers]

Where does this "pollster predicted Bremain" meme come from? All the polls average showed both camps neck-to-neck in the days before the elections, but it seems the Brexit crowd had to rewrite the past to make it seem more like a victory or something.

Sheb, you were one of the people who were in the Brexit threads from the start, so I know you're lying when you say you genuinely believe the polls predicted Brexit, and even neck and neck

Of 168 polls carried out since the EU referendum wording was decided last September, fewer than a third (55 in all) predicted a leave vote.
Polls did give a sense of the swing to leave in the first weeks of June, but edged back to favour remain in the final days before the vote. The actual result on the night came in at 51.9% leave, 48.1% remain. Just 16 of 168 individual polls predicted a 52:48 split in favour of leave. Just two of six polls released the day before the referendum – those carried out by TNS and Opinium – gave leave the edge.
Bookmakers also got the EU referendum wrong. Odds last week put remain around 1-4, implying an 80% probability of a victory for the pro-EU camp.

Why do you lie to me? I thought we were safe lol

Ayyy lmao, and to talk of historical revisionism, you clearly forgot how Remain tried to say all of Brexit voters didn't actually want Brexit and were Regrexit voters

Such stories have quickly become viral hits among online readers. In the spirit of Brexit, these attitudes even have their own media-friendly nickname: Bregret or Regrexit. They seem to confirm many anguished "remain" voters' belief that the Brexit campaign was based on lies and fear-mongering. It provides hope that perhaps a second referendum would not only set Britain back on track but also be the morally justifiable thing to do.
Unfortunately for those people, the data we have on Bregretters is not convincing.
Although there is no shortage of "leave" voters expressing regret to journalists, more than 17 million Britons voted to leave the E.U. A few dozen — heck, even a few thousand — regretful "leave" voters are not statistically significant: The difference between the "remain" and "leave" camps was more than 1 million. At best, what we have right now are individual anecdotes. What we'd need to get an accurate picture of Bregret is really representative data from polling companies.
We should soon have that. A number of polling companies are working on post-vote surveys that ask "leave" voters how they feel about the result. At the time of writing, it appears that only one company, Survation, has published anything like this. In a post-referendum poll conducted Thursday and Friday, Survation asked "leave" voters whether they regretted their vote. About 7.1 percent came out as Bregretters. That number isn't totally insignificant, but it isn't a game-changer: 4.4 percent of "remain" voters also said they wished they had changed their vote.
Of course, there will be plenty of hand-wringing about whether such a poll could really be accurate. Britain's pollsters have been notoriously inaccurate over the past few years, and only a few had correctly guessed the scale of Thursday's "leave" vote before the referendum.

Why use lies as a crutch for weakness?

In brexit news:

in a briefing on public opinion at King's College London, Prof Curtice said there was “not much evidence of buyer’s remorse” over the vote.
“The Remainers are still convinced they were right and the Leavers still think they were right. Very few minds have been changed,” he said.
Nor is there much appetite for another vote, with no more than a third of people backing a second EU referendum according to a string of polls.

Regrexit disinfo BTFO

This is why posting sources is important lmao, repeating disinfo until you genuinely believe it helps turn your cause into a morally hollow shell

Also on one last one, one does not need to make victories seem like victories, victories are :D

That was all explained in the article, of course, but why let the facts get in the way of some good snark?

Yeah who wants our laws being in the hands of our MPs, what a horror

EDIT: Literally seconds after I post that last paragraph, May punks me and sets a deadline for declaring Article 50. What a bitch.

D-DAY 180
HYPE

Mrs May said Parliament will be kept informed, adding: "This is not about keeping silent for two years, but it's about making sure that we are able to negotiate, that we don't set out all the cards in our negotiation because, as anybody will know who's been involved in these things, if you do that up front, or if you give a running commentary, you don't get the right deal."

MAXIMUM HYPE
DEPLOY NIMBLE SUBMARINE
Liberal source saying much the same

[Gigaz]

Good for Theresa May. When Brexit fails she can blame the Parliament.

[Sheb]

While I'll freely admit I though Brexit wouldn't happened, that polls clearly didn't show a flat remain victory. Just look at the Economist's poll tracker. Hell, the economist even had articles about how some kind of "shy europhile" effect might give remain victory despite what the polls said.

[Loud Whispers]

While I'll freely admit I though Brexit wouldn't happened, that polls clearly didn't show a flat remain victory. Just look at the Economist's poll tracker. Hell, the economist even had articles about how some kind of "shy europhile" effect might give remain victory despite what the polls said.

Sheb you're having a giggle

55 is smaller than 113

Good for Theresa May. When Brexit fails she can blame the Parliament.

If Brexit fails then Theresa May is pretty much dead, she has no deep etonite connections like the others (if you follow British politics, you get these situations that are equally infuriating and amusing where political ""rivals"" went to school together and have been friends for decades. You just don't know who's controlled opposition, but I must admit one moment that will live forever in my memory is when Ed Miliband attacked Boris Johnson for being an etonite and Boris went on about how they went to the same school together, much to the anguish of Ed). May was a state and grammar school girl, which means she's on her own, only her band of Merry May's Men would take bullets for her - outside her core of zealous backbenchers (rather analogous to Corbyn's red guard), the first dangerous mistake she makes will be her last. Corbyn for example upon losing the EU ref got blamed by his entire party for not doing anything, with inevitable accusations that he was a traitor. This mirrors May being dubbed submarine May torpedoing the EU ref on the conservative side from within; both leaders are leaders who were born outside of the established career paths of politicians, and so lack the ties that current politicians built from childhood to guarantee superiority over their rivals.

Theresa May to accuse politicians of sneering at Brexit voters

Prime minister will use conference speech to lambast elites and set out a ‘new centre ground’ in which the Tories step in to protect working people

Moistness levels 99.9082%

Theresa May will accuse politicians of sneering at the millions of ordinary people who backed Brexit, as she urges her party to seize a “new centre ground” and intervene more aggressively for the sake of working-class families.

In a withering attack at the Conservative conference on Wednesday, the prime minister will say: “Just listen to the way a lot of politicians and commentators talk about the public. They find their patriotism distasteful, their concerns about immigration parochial, their views about crime illiberal, their attachment to their job security inconvenient. They find the fact that more than 17 million people voted to leave the European Union simply bewildering.”

Moistness levels 99.9319%

Speaking after sterling sunk to a 31-year-low, causing stock markets to soar, May will argue that the time has come to “reject the ideological templates provided by the socialist left and the libertarian right” and instead embrace a new centre ground.
“Let’s have no more of Labour’s absurd belief that they have a monopoly on compassion. Let’s put an end to their sanctimonious pretence of moral superiority. Let’s make clear that they have given up the right to call themselves the party of the NHS, the party of the workers, the party of public servants.”
The speech comes as the head of May’s policy board in Downing Street warned of “anti-capitalist riots” if the government does not urgently reform the economic system – including with a more muscular state.

Moistness levels 99.9551%

"If you're one of those people who lost their job, who stayed in work but on reduced hours, took a pay cut as household bills rocketed, or - and I know a lot of people don't like to admit this - someone who finds themselves out of work or on lower wages because of low-skilled immigration, life simply doesn't seem fair.

"It feels like your dreams have been sacrificed in the service of others."

Promising to build a "united Britain rooted in a centre ground", she said her government would protect jobs and "repair" free markets when they did not work properly.

Setting out a "responsible capitalism" agenda, she said the government would "go after" businesses that regarded paying tax as "an optional extra", challenge those which recruited "cheap foreign labour" at the expense of British workers and, in a reference to the collapse of retailer BHS, condemn those who "take out massive dividends while knowing that the company pension is about to go bust".

Previous Tory leaders have sought to reduce state intervention, but Mrs May said her government would take action to identify injustice, find solutions and drive change.

We're reaching levels of moist that shouldn't even be possible

Salt levels dangerously 0%, and winter is coming
Our roads will die

[Starver]

(I've barely begun to understand 'saltiness', is this 'moistness' the opposite? Whatever that is?)

[Loud Whispers]

Dear god, an actual centrist in this day and age. A shame that they wouldn't survive a minute here in Trumpland.

We really lucked out, it seems the exact right conditions managed to destroy every politician except the centrist dark horse

(I've barely begun to understand 'saltiness', is this 'moistness' the opposite? Whatever that is?)

When I first knew of 'salty,' I knew it as the companion of 'crispy.' One who is 'crispy' is doing something really well, sharp and with good results, and one who is salty is one who is of much honour in a salt of the earth kind of way, people who are salt of the earth being people of intrinsic good nature. Also we gave it to anyone whose name or surname is a fish. In current days salty means someone who is mad a/f, or someone who expends much salty tears, but I still hold onto its old meaning to me. Moistness is a normal word that gets used in Britlands because it's the best word that people hate. Moistness sounds uncomfortable, it denotes uncomfortable dampness, but it also denotes utmost excitement (lewd). Thus things are both moist when they are disgusting/suck, and moist when they are on a next level of greatness, they are two moistnesses in one
I also logically think 100% moistness excludes any salt, because if it was anything other than pure moist, it could not physically be 100% moist. Pure liquids are pure liquids, and brexit is brexit

They've little to do with the online usage, and I doubt much people would feel satisfaction at being moist

[Starver]

Well, salt can be moist, physically.  "Wet" would be not (noticably, until you gird yourself to taste it) salty. But definitely not crumbly as either dry or moist salt couod be.  As a Britlander myself, "moist" might be uncomfortable when it comes to putting on freshly laundered underwear too soon, or underwear that needs laundering¹, but is quite happily the aim when it comes to cakes. And refreshing towelettes.

Anyway, never mind. I'm sure that in this context it's sick, man. Or bad, you dig? That is, it's the cat's meow, you live wire.  Or boss, cat.  Or a meringue?

¹ For one of several reasons. One reason, though, seems to be (at least at the moment) something actually desired by some, or at least desirable because of the desires that causer it.

[Max™]

This whole conversation has left me... damp and crusty.


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Spoiler: Hah, I'm kidding! (click to show/hide)

[Loud Whispers]

@Max you get it

Well, salt can be moist, physically.

That would be saline wouldn't it, or saltmoist

Also in recent news, the lack of the Wizard of Directions' capabilities to obliterate Theresa May (smug news outlets have been delivering variations of delusions from smug corbyn supporters. In the battle of smug, there are no winners), Tzeentch has waned and now the Blood God shall consider challenging Theresa May for the souls of mankind. That would be quite the battle to witness.

[Starver]

Well, salt can be moist, physically.

That would be saline wouldn't it, or saltmoist

Briney water up to (or even including) any still liquid supersaturation would be saline. Moist salt is a clumpy mass of crystals that won't pour well.  But that's just my 2p, thus not worth continuing with that analogy.