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[Frumple]

... the point in this case being? I could take a few guesses at what you're trying to think, but it's probably better to just ask.

[Frumple]

... the point ultimatum in this case being? I could take a few guesses at what you're trying to think, but it's probably better to just ask.

Like. The word does have a meaning, but it's not one that just stands on its own?

[mainiac]

Also it kind of ties directly into the US's election, seeing as not only are the positions similar, but so are the campaign strategies. Including similar missteps by Clinton, arguing against the "danger" of a Trump presidency rather than what she would do to listen to those who currently struggle.

Clinton was just at a high profile rally with Elizabeth Warren.  They talked about manufacturing, climate change, the minimum wage, equal pay, banking reform, taxes and Donald Trump.

Guess which of these subjects got the headline?

[mainiac]

The media is a bit worse then usual.  But it really doesn't help that policy speeches dont sell fishwrappers.  If the positions were controversial maybe there would be some jazz.

[Neonivek]

The media is a bit worse then usual.  But it really doesn't help that policy speeches dont sell fishwrappers.  If the positions were controversial maybe there would be some jazz.

It is just weird watching the presidential election's media coverage since it looks like a parody...

They are better at commentating wrestling then actual wrestling shows. Too bad this is a presidential debate... AND THEN TRUMP HIT CLINTON WITH A BODYSLAM!

[Neonivek]

Besides, right now everything's way too early to make any calls one way or another. There's just some lessons to be learned from Brexit, is all.

Once the shock wears off people will calm down and HOPEFULLY won't be tearing eachother's throats out.

Or they can do the true British thing and seethe with a secret undercurrent of rage... Possibly forming a new party.

Goodness I HOPE what I said was a joke... But weirder stuff has happened.

[Frumple]

Oh, uh... "Let us feel like we have an actual say in our government or we'll burn this whole place down".

Well, can understand that sentiment, at least. Can't figure out a way to say anything else that's not fairly hostile (there's, y'know, ways to get the former that doesn't involve fucking everyone*), but I understand it.

*Step one for the UK would have been to stop electing the shitheels that were shafting them and blaming it on Brussels, ferex.

[Max™]

"We are a nation of immigrants" philosophy post WW2after all natives were genocided.

I borked a bork.

To my knowledge this was mostly the US who did this.

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How do you make a dead aboriginal canadian float?
Two scoops of baby.

[Baffler]

And the less said about the natives of South and Central America at the hands of the Spanish the better.

[Max™]

Though, to their credit, Canada did apologize.

Don't think we ever did.

That's all off topic though.

[mainiac]

Google does exist.

[Frumple]

... oh wow.

Does the government accept that there are about 3 million EU nationals living at present in the United Kingdom, but there are also 1.2 million British people living in the European Union? So when present tensions have calmed down why would either Brussels or London want to do anything to upset this mutually benefical situation? Does the government agree however that if the EU were to get difficult with our nationals living there it is we who hold the stronger hand if we retaliate because so many more of them are living here?

Well, I guess if there was ever question that some of UKIP is actively intent on destroying the UK, there isn't anymore.

How. How does someone consider straight up suicide to be a stronger hand?

[Neonivek]

Can someone translate for me. I don't understand.

[Frumple]

Critter's saying that if the EU starts playing hardball with the UK nationals in the EU, the UK would be in the stronger position if they hold the EU citizens in the UK hostage/retaliate against said civilians.

Or in other words, straight up declare war on the EU and probably most of the rest of the developed world. The brain dead thing apparently thinks the UK would be the one holding the advantage there.

[Neonivek]

Critter's saying that if the EU starts playing hardball with the UK nationals in the EU, the UK would be in the stronger position if they hold the EU citizens in the UK hostage/retaliate against said civilians.

Or in other words, straight up declare war on the EU and probably most of the rest of the developed world. The brain dead thing apparently thinks the UK would be the one holding the advantage there.

Well... that is... evil.