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Re: Brexit! Conversation Continued
« Reply #405 on: July 14, 2016, 12:50:51 am »

That and bond villians intentionally destroy britains economy. Cameron wasn't even trying!
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They're nearly as bad as badgers. Build a couple of anti-buzzard SAM sites marksdwarf towers and your fortress will look like Baghdad in 2003 from all the aerial bolt spam. You waste a lot of ammo and everything is covered in unslightly exploded buzzard bits and broken bolts.

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« Reply #406 on: July 15, 2016, 04:13:13 am »

LW what the hell is going on with the Labour election? The number of shenanigan going on seems incredible, and didn't Corbyn refuse to resign?
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« Reply #407 on: July 15, 2016, 06:53:34 am »

LW what the hell is going on with the Labour election? The number of shenanigan going on seems incredible, and didn't Corbyn refuse to resign?
On Tuesday I was rofling because I got an email from someone saying they were supposed to be having summer drinks with the shadow cabinet, but everyone had resigned

Basically the Labour MPs who hopped on from Blair and Brown's days form a neoliberal party faction whose power rests on controlling most of their Parliamentary seats, whilst Corbyn's socialist faction relies on its union and member support trouncing support for the old guard (hilariously enough, "new labour" are the old, "old labour" are the new). In the leadership election that elected Corbyn, the Party members opened the voting to their members thinking they could use the party members to drown out Union influence, as the Unions had caused them to elect Ed Miliband who was unelectable. What this ended up doing though was making the Unions twice as powerful, so now Labour are hoping to use some shenanigenery to disenfranchise loads and loads of union members from voting for Corbyn, unless they hurriedly register as a Labour member and pay £25. Remember, it's democratic to break the law to get more of your voters registered, and it's democratic to change party rules to stop more of your opponents voters getting registered.
Whilst the majority of Britons including Labour party Britons think Corbyn should be replaced, in the eye of the public and pragmatically, there is no one capable of replacing him. This is probably a result of the 2015 defeat wiping out a lot of their leadership material, so no Douglas Alexander, no Ed Balls, everyone they had in Scotland (all but one)
The surviving leadership then having multiple mass resignations means there's not much people left capable of leading a campaign
Also quite funny is that post election, Corbyn promised to make half his shadow cabinet be run by women
He failed and gave his female colleagues useless honorary posts, some of them just made up
Now Angela Eagle's coming for him, but her chances are still slim

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« Reply #410 on: July 15, 2016, 07:49:14 am »

Have you missed the past 20 years? Laor giving up on socialism all but formally and becoming Washington Consensus-lite was big news back in the day.
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« Reply #411 on: July 15, 2016, 07:50:16 am »

To be fair, is there even enough women MPs that haven't resigned to fill 50% of a shadow cabinet?
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« Reply #412 on: July 15, 2016, 08:07:08 am »

Have you missed the past 20 years? Laor giving up on socialism all but formally and becoming Washington Consensus-lite was big news back in the day.
Labour MPs
neoliberal
I... what?

Such is the trajectory of all social democratism, unfortunately.


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« Reply #413 on: July 15, 2016, 08:14:15 am »

I... what?
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To be fair, is there even enough women MPs that haven't resigned to fill 50% of a shadow cabinet?
There was in 2015 and there is still now in the current year, the issue was Corbyn wanted people who thought like him, and didn't like that his female MPs were capable of disagreeing with him
Thus they could be allowed no power

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« Reply #414 on: July 15, 2016, 08:24:03 am »

Have you missed the past 20 years?
Yeah I haven't followed British politics for very long
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« Reply #416 on: July 15, 2016, 09:09:06 am »

LW is interesting because I can never quite tell what his political positions are, and taking some of them at face value his enjoyment of Bojo comes across like a cultist in a Lovecraftian setting... but you give me necrobacon, I can forgive anything.
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« Reply #418 on: July 15, 2016, 11:54:08 am »

So they literally have no idea what end to end encryption is? "We want you to take your system which is designed so you can't intercept it, and just make it one where you could intercept it if we told you to do so."
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« Reply #419 on: July 15, 2016, 12:30:00 pm »

LW is interesting because I can never quite tell what his political positions are, and taking some of them at face value his enjoyment of Bojo comes across like a cultist in a Lovecraftian setting... but you give me necrobacon, I can forgive anything.
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