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[Max™]

We're waiting for more news I suppose.

Salt water?  Fertilizer?  What part of maryland were you in?  Were you drunk?

I don't drink, it was a semi, and we went from west virginia through delaware via Maryland, with a stop to unload on the far side of Baltimore I think?

[mainiac]

Well it sounds like you were driving far away from the farmland but close to Baltimore harbor so I'm guessing you were smelling fish guts and garbage.

[Max™]

Makes sense, fun fact, the first time I saw the Atlantic was actually driving down 13 through that little spit of Virgina coming south from Maryland, which I later learned is actually part of an impact crater!

So back on topic Brexit might have a knock-on effect over here, via showing people how awful an idea protest votes can be. http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/06/how-brexit-convinced-me-to-vote-for-hillary-clinton-214006

[MetalSlimeHunt]

That URL literally makes me want to vomit at how fucking doomed our political reasoning is.

[BorkBorkGoesTheCode]

Makes sense, fun fact, the first time I saw the Atlantic was actually driving down 13 through that little spit of Virgina coming south from Maryland, which I later learned is actually part of an impact crater!

So back on topic Brexit might have a knock-on effect over here, via showing people how awful an idea protest votes can be. http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/06/how-brexit-convinced-me-to-vote-for-hillary-clinton-214006

So that is why....

[Max™]

Yeah, it's pretty dumb sounding, but shit, we're both in the same situation, nobody really believed Brexit would go through last month, and nobody really believes Trump will get elected in a few months.

[Orange Wizard]

What the hell kind of correlation is that? I guess if you think Brexit means raaaaaaacism and Trump is Literally Hitler (TM), but that doesn't bode well for your reasoning in general.

[mainiac]

It's not about hate, it's about probability.

[Max™]

What the hell kind of correlation is that? I guess if you think Brexit means raaaaaaacism and Trump is Literally Hitler (TM), but that doesn't bode well for your reasoning in general.

I strictly meant that all the magic 8-balls said signs point to bremain and hillary, so people put in protest votes and were later shocked by it.

Trump is by far worse than Brexit will ever be, there are positive things that can come from Brexit, I don't see that shit with a Trump presidency.

Assuming that it's safe to throw out a protest vote because obviously he won't win now has a direct example of that backfiring.

[BorkBorkGoesTheCode]

Why not vote "protest vote" instead of Trump?

[Orange Wizard]

So the similarities begin and end at "nobody expects it"? I suppose I'll just throw in some Monty Python references while we're at it.

[Max™]

How many major elections or referendums (referendii, referenda?) can you think of which wound up being so far from predictions, and which can be placed at the feet of protest voters?

[Orange Wizard]

I don't think we can place Brexit at the feet of protest voters

[Max™]

I could swear I remember seeing something about a portion of the voters being surprised that it won, including some who were "voting to flip the bird" more or less, but it was also in the last thread and it exploded into a bunch of back and forth after that. Was I mistaken there, I may well be.

[Baffler]

Poland stands with the UK, wants them back in EU. Poland very strongly opposes EU federalism but benefits greatly from the economic cooperation it fosters, so with the UK gone they've pretty much got to choose between being sucked into the "ever closer union" against their wishes and losing easy access to the European market the Polish economy depends on.

Being Poland truly is suffering.