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[Starver]

Even those who don't agree with Corbyn's direction (and/or competence, and/or ability) still tend to say that they trust him more, despite(/because of) his perceived political failings, I find.

YMMV, but it's based upon my personal sampling of voiced opinions. I'm not sure that a Crooked Corbyn meme could really fly, and could even boomerang back on the Tories, unexpectedly.

[Starver]

The ironic thing about the Demon Blair ad was that it was supposed to be a warning against the as-yet-untested New Labour pulling the country to the left.  With hindsight, we know that it pulled it more to the right (or at least more Right than the Libs, the Conservatives in opposition were only a spread across the moderates, and hard to tell where they'd be if they'd have grabbed enough middle to continue).

If they tried exactly the same visuals with Corbyn, the connotations would probably be the opposite.

Anyway, is this an Election thread, now?  Well, arguably the election is a "whose Brexit do we (not) want anyway?", with a sideline of properly electing President May, and much less thought to the rest of the policies and direction and than it should be.

(Although the Conservatives going hard-left on certain things, like the socialist seizing of senior citizens' assets, and trying to be the catch-all on the right for the rebounding UKIPpers who just want their <whatever it is they voted Leave for> now that it's happening but not <the things they didn't vote Leave for>, it's going to be a messed up future parliament unless they luck out and actually find themselves in opposition against a coalition.)

[Starver]

Anyway, is this an Election thread, now?

Kinda become "British politics general" now.

Though I didn't realise it, it seems that this is not the first time on this page that I questioned the thread-drift.  I fully see the irony, given my own tendency to drift things on my own flights of fancy.

So, anyway....  Unrelated.

[Neonivek]

It has a lot to do with the fact that Brexit has VERY long and broad effects that colors almost all UK politics now.

[smjjames]

Anyway, is this an Election thread, now?

Kinda become "British politics general" now.

Though I didn't realise it, it seems that this is not the first time on this page that I questioned the thread-drift.  I fully see the irony, given my own tendency to drift things on my own flights of fancy.

So, anyway....  Unrelated.

Holy shit, a BBC article where people are criticising the Tories and saying that May's a terrible choice? And they're the most upvoted?

What the fuck did you DO, May?

Skipped a debate apparently. From what I can tell over here on the other side of the pond.

[TD1]

Wait, you're American? Why'd I assume you were Polish?

There's someone out there who loves Winged Hussars.

[smjjames]

Wait, you're American? Why'd I assume you were Polish?

There's someone out there who loves Winged Hussars.

Lol, I've said I'm American multiple times.

And for the one who loves Winged Hussars you're thinking about Kot, though he's not the only Polish Bay12er.

[Sheb]

Wait, you're American? Why'd I assume you were Polish?

There's someone out there who loves Winged Hussars.

Kot

[TD1]

Well, it's your own fault for having such a similar name.

[smjjames]

If that's the excuse you want to use, okay. lol.....

[martinuzz]

Wait, you're American? Why'd I assume you were Polish?

There's someone out there who loves Winged Hussars.

Kot

Didn't see Kot post for a while now. Hope he / she is still with us.

[Strife26]

Wait, you're American? Why'd I assume you were Polish?

There's someone out there who loves Winged Hussars.

I like them, but simply because they spearheaded the largest cavalry charge in history and Sabaton did a song about it.

Objection! Cavalry charges should be considered in weight, with heavy cavalry being significantly more impressive (and therefore "larger") than the use of light forces. Back of the envelope, if we call the winged hussars the heaviest horseman ever fielded, they *might* round to a ton a piece. This is significant weight of metal, certainly, but little compared to other charges described by Sabaton.

Under this sun no shadows will fall, piercing our eyes as we charge . . .

Thousands of tons of armor and guns, making it's way through the sand

[Dorsidwarf]

I'd like to point out that Labour have a pretty comprehensive and continuous attack on the trustworthiness of May and the tories.

I should know, I get like an email a day saying "the tories have failed the UK May cannot be trusted donate to labour today" and cant figure out how to get off the damn mailing list

[TD1]

Send 'em to junk?

[Starver]

Don't forget that Labour (and everyone else) can say that May is breaking promises, getting it wrong, etc, etc, with emperical evidence. Whilst the Tories can at best say that Corbyn will break promises, get it wrong, etc, etc, merely speculating . It's the 'away advantage' to national political campaigning, to counteract the home advantage of not (hopefully) having annoyed/deported/allowed to die off a significant proportion of those who gave you the win the last time.

Everyone also does the whole "..and, what I say to you is, that in the fullness of time, at the appropriate juncture, when all conditions are right and we have our full and proper mandate, then we shall ensure that our export of floggletoggles and humgrummits to the Republic of Potarneyland properly balances our trade deficit, reduces our debt and increases employment and the standard of living for all working families in the inner citiy supurb of Ballykissangel!" thing.  And stating what happened in the past (especially that annoying phrase "...that we inherited from the last government..." which I heard just a few days ago, despite that actually refering to three governments, and a global crisis, ago...), which has as much or as little relevence as you care to personally give it, even assuming you agree with the 'facts' being given.