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[Ekaton]

By that definition flight simulators, especially with addons that literally simulate oil flow and electric power in every system are probably the most complex.

[ThtblovesDF]

I quite liked IL-2

I guess we should mention dominions (4), but from all games stated so far, I'd say Factorio offers the most long-term-complexity (and multiplayer : 3)

[Cormack]

Thank you for your suggestions! I really like this Mars Simulation Project, are there any other similar, perhaps DF-like games there with DF level of complexity?

[LoSboccacc]

rimworld, gnomoria, and prison architect are quite close to that

[Cormack]

Are there any complex space base simulators?

[Mephisto]

Are there any complex space base simulators?

They're all Early Access failures.

The two I'm aware of - Spacebase DF9 (I don't want to work on this anymore so I'll just label the current version 1.0 and no one can complain anymore), Space Station Alpha (I wish I was Spacebase DF9).

There's another one that appeared more successful but I don't recall the name of it. I remember the player leading away missions to gather resources.

[forsaken1111]

Just play Startopia to get your space station fix. Nobody has come close since then.

[Cormack]

Just play Startopia to get your space station fix. Nobody has come close since then.

Played it for years now, looking for something different. Mars Simulation Project seemed fine but there's little to do there.

[ThtblovesDF]

Are there any complex space base simulators?

Space Station 13 might actually be the most complex in that area, if you can magically find a server that is not a incestious meta-club.

[Girlinhat]

Are there any complex space base simulators?

Space Station 13 might actually be the most complex in that area, if you can magically find a server that is not a incestious meta-club.

I really want to see SS13 rebooted as a singleplayer option.  Maybe as simple as 'last survivor on a space station after emergency, get power running again and don't starve'.  Like "The Martian" the game, on a space station...

[miauw62]

Are there any complex space base simulators?

Space Station 13 might actually be the most complex in that area, if you can magically find a server that is not a incestious meta-club.

I really want to see SS13 rebooted as a singleplayer option.  Maybe as simple as 'last survivor on a space station after emergency, get power running again and don't starve'.  Like "The Martian" the game, on a space station...

So basically, factorio in space?

Actually, I recall a rogue like that was like this. Can't remember the name, though.

[Persus13]

Are there any complex space base simulators?

Space Station 13 might actually be the most complex in that area, if you can magically find a server that is not a incestious meta-club.

I really want to see SS13 rebooted as a singleplayer option.  Maybe as simple as 'last survivor on a space station after emergency, get power running again and don't starve'.  Like "The Martian" the game, on a space station...

So basically, factorio in space?

Actually, I recall a rogue like that was like this. Can't remember the name, though.

Teleglitch?

[LoSboccacc]

http://thespatials.com/ maybe not extra complex but there's plenty stuff to do, from room hosting your station tourist to send out away teams to unlock quadrants, to missions and quests, resource managements etc.

[forsaken1111]

http://thespatials.com/ maybe not extra complex but there's plenty stuff to do, from room hosting your station tourist to send out away teams to unlock quadrants, to missions and quests, resource managements etc.

I really wanted to like that game but it.. it just wasn't good. I honestly think it would have been a better game if they'd cut out the 'away team' aspect entirely. It ended up being a ridiculous clickfest.

[LoSboccacc]

http://thespatials.com/ maybe not extra complex but there's plenty stuff to do, from room hosting your station tourist to send out away teams to unlock quadrants, to missions and quests, resource managements etc.

I really wanted to like that game but it.. it just wasn't good. I honestly think it would have been a better game if they'd cut out the 'away team' aspect entirely. It ended up being a ridiculous clickfest.

true, so true. they fixed a little by having people autoshoot or something, but all the special abilities were extra annoying. but I put it on hold for different reasons: people gained too much experience serving food at a cafeteria and their payscale was tied to their level. so it became annoying to keep rotating them.