its a issue that people can't understand that some mature themes resolutions are explicitly linked to a need for real world help & counseling. Desensitizing to those themes (such as desensitizing to themes in pornography to draw up a comparison) by inserting it into pop culture won't help anybody.
IT MAKES ME UNCOMFORTABLE THEREFORE IT SHOULD BE REMOVED
Obviously you haven't read the arguement in both pieces. The part you quoted was in relation to a arguement over it being 'PC gone mad' for a basis of not putting it in. Its a serious real world issue of a abuser pushing themselves onto someone else usually of a vulnerable disposition that requires very much real world responses instead of trivialisation by the fact that one person may not like it therefore feels that it should be censored just because its a 'game mechanic' (urgh, how horrid).
May i ask a question? Do you read a lot of manga magazines that they '
store upstairs' because that kind of content is the stuff that im talking about when we're discussing mature themes in popular culture and desensitizing. Quite graphic material just becomes the norm of people who pick up on it (probably being weirded out on their first few magazines or easing into lighter material), in the comparison to showing such a inherently violent and abusive action towards another being, as to say its ok because their minds are normalised to it doesn't make it ok both legally and morally.
This arguement gets thrown up a lot about videogames promoting violent acts, its true that videogames do desensitize but most people have the intelligence and will to identify it as a game. Especially when low levels of maturity is thrown into the mix and ongoing mental issues that may be in place already or caused by the violent actions of rape (such as the PTSD example putnam picks out) the risk rises.
Acknowledging it exists but taking not very much to practically no emphasis on it is really the only way to be mature and moderate about it besides cutting the unnessecary feature out entirely.
well, to elaborate on my last post, since I usually try to avoid the topic:
this fanbase is almost entirely made up of complete edgelords who consider dwarves to be some sort of hedonistic violence-loving sociopathic sentient beard and the possibility of rape being added immediately adds such revulsion to me due to the awful state of the community in matters of general morality that the mere suggestion makes me curl up in fear and shame at the possibility of being associated with the kind of vile deeds that would immediately be perpetrated therein
i mean, it's not like it hasn't already happened
there's also the way that, like, violence is something people have PTSD over but violence is something that happens for legitimate political and material acquisition purposes, a means to an end, while rape... like, isn't, i literally cannot think of anything rape can be "used" for that isn't some sort of awful end unto itself, so in the context of DF there's no real benefit to it
Well said. I too would feel ashamed and jump ship from the forum. This conversation WAS needed at some point, but its really shown up the community in a bad light.
I feel like we can comfortably retire this thread within a few more posts and have it over and done with
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