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[ChairmanPoo]

Forum in FBI watchlist in 3, 2, 1....

[Starver]

I guarant-fucking-tee you that the government is watching for people who purchase large quantities of matchbooks,...

Purchase? Can't you get them for free at bars?* That's obviously why this guy was a regular at Pulse, he was just accumulating masses of their matchbooks!

* -  ok, so probably not these days, but roll with it for the purposes of my ill-aimed attempt at humour, right?

[Leafsnail]

Some people really like to talk up how easy it is to build home-made guns but that seems to be at odds with the reality that they are very rarely or never used in crimes in countries where bans are implemented.

[itisnotlogical]

Didn't the famous scary 3D-printed gun destroy itself the first time it was fired?

[MetalSlimeHunt]

It wasn't built to last, like the original Liberator it's patterned on it is a single-shot weapon.

[Shadowlord]

Neither the Paris nor the Brussels bombers were Syrian refugees.

I didn't say they were. My understanding from news reports is that they used fake Syrian IDs/passports to get back into Europe, posing as refugees.

[Sheb]

AFAIK, the had perfectly good French and Belgian passports.

[Shadowlord]

Then what was the fake syrian passport that all the american news made so much of after the Paris attack, while, iirc, saying that there were no others found?

Were there more developments after the news organizations here decided they were bored and moved on, and I just never heard about them?

(I don't recall anything about passports in the news about the brussels attack)

(Or am I just misremembering? :V)

[Morrigi]

The Supreme Court has unanimously held that  “the Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding,”. http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/15pdf/14-10078_aplc.pdf

It's pretty non-negotiable.

The problem is when even basic research cannot be carried over it through the CDC. Besides, people are a lot less liable to respect the law if they feel it's slowly chocking them and their loved ones to death.

That article is ridiculous. There is no "gun violence crisis". Homicide has been steadily dropping for nearly thirty years now. Also, the CDC can study all they want, they just can't advocate for unconstitutional political change. The AMA is also intentionally conflating suicide and homicide, which are two totally separate issues. Your article is garbage propaganda that has no place in honest discussion.

[chaoticag]

To be perfectly honest, if the CDC did perform a study into gun deaths then we would know if homicide by gun and suicide by gun and suicide by gun shared any relationship between them, but we can't pretend that they aren't on the basis of ignorance.

Besides, the law still stands that the CDC cannot perform any studies that "advocate" for gun control. This could be interpreted to mean that if they had conducted a study, and that study had found that gun control is the most effective means of addressing deaths caused by guns, then they had done something illegal.

Besides that, if your constitution is killing your fellow countrymen, why would you stand beside it? Everyone considers the prohibition to be a bad thing in general despite it being perfectly constitutional at the time.

[Flying Dice]

Yeah, politically squashing research into the subject doesn't say anything good about what gun industry advocates think is happening. "Gun violence isn't a problem! But you're also not allowed to conduct or publish research that doesn't say that gun violence isn't a problem!"

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A pride march is looking to be cancelled around here because of concern about the attack. Not the right way to respond to terrorism. 

[chaoticag]

Well, besides the orlando shooting, there was also an arrest in... California or thereabouts? Man was lanning on attacking a pride parade there as well, but thankfully got arrested before we had another mass shooting. It sucks, but I would at least plan on more security and reschedule the march at some point, or figure out a security arrangement just in case. I don't want to encourage people to possible put their lives on the line when there's danger, and perhaps they cancelled not because of those reasons, but they would feel it's more important to mourn at the moment as well.

[Sheb]

Was he? My understanding was that he was arrested with guns, but it wasn't clear he was planning an attack. There was also something about him having a boyfriend or something.

[chaoticag]

Guns and 20 pounds of explosives apparently.

[Shadowlord]

The Supreme Court has unanimously held that  “the Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding,”. http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/15pdf/14-10078_aplc.pdf

It's pretty non-negotiable.

The problem is when even basic research cannot be carried over it through the CDC. Besides, people are a lot less liable to respect the law if they feel it's slowly chocking them and their loved ones to death.

That article is ridiculous. There is no "gun violence crisis" _{[Citation Needed]}. Homicide has been steadily dropping for nearly thirty years now _{[Citation Needed]}. Also, the CDC can study all they want _{[Citation Needed]}, they just can't advocate for unconstitutional political change _{[Citation Needed]}. The AMA is also intentionally conflating suicide and homicide, which are two totally separate issues _{[Citation Needed]}. Your article is garbage propaganda that has no place in honest discussion _{[Citation Needed]}.

FTFY.