The one where you strangely seem to be ok with it, despite some real talk there at the bottom.
Real talk is all there is to it, I don't otherwise care
You know if he'd just punched a guy, I almost might respect him a little bit for all that "maverick" stuff you seem to cheer, since we really don't know how the other guy comported himself. I'm not sure it should matter. But the denigrating where people come from, and he's done a lot of that, making that part of your personal beef with someone, is that just....ok by you? Just "saying what we're all thinkin'"? Because I'd disagree with that.
If this was just maverick lol random, nah that'd just be boring as hell. What's so special about denigrating where people come from? You honestly think that's inexcusable where you could excuse punching a guy in the face depending on how the other bloke comported themself? The hell does that even mean ;
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Who's bringing up saying what we're all thinking, he's not a politician he's just a guy who pisses people off on Tele m8, the stakes are so low there's no need for political phrases
Speak simple and
true simpler and truer
I don't understand people who want denigration that doesn't denigrate. Seems to be rather self-defeating don't it? Sorta why I've tuned out from the last comedy shows I watched down to Charlie Brooker (cos he's a cynical git and funny, entirely unrelated to this thread but worth mentioning cos he's quality), because they want to be edgy and safe. It's like the people who tone down violence in order to make it more accessible to children, or the people who look for safe ways to offend someone else - you've got a serious internal conflict there
And that is of more import than anything, including character? I guess I kinda care about the character of the people I spend my time to be entertained by. I have a hard time watching Mark Wahlberg after alllll the shit he's done in his past, some of which he's still not apologized for. Consider him the extreme end of the scale for whether or not who celebrities actually are as people matters.
Yeah that is clearly of more import than anything, especially character. If you think you can be moral and consume media you're dead wrong, the whole thing is scummy from top to bottom, the only thing you can argue about is how scummy. Show business is ruthless, idiotic, progressive, racist, pedophiles, prudes, power brokers, murderers, so on and so forth - standing right next to all the angels of the earth. Sadly this also means the angels can end up turning out to be some of the more unflattering in the former list, point being if you think you can find good characterd entertainment wholly free from vipers you're deluding yourself - finding those who actually care about self image, whilst only succeeding in filtering out those who don't care about media image. I just don't bother altogether, seeing stuff I like and stuff I don't, I find it hilarious that it's all fine and good to enjoy the words of warlords but muggy banter is the line
In this case I think it makes the point. We don't go around punching people in the face over a cold dinner because we know we're not anything special. That's the idea I don't really hold truck with. I found him amusing and liked the show, but that doesn't make him special or above the rules to me. You act the jackass, you eventually get treated like one. Life in this instance confirms my desire for how the world should tick. I also don't idolize the man. I'd describe him as a "knob but I like him" were it not for the pattern of racism that keeps coming up.
I get you, I just don't care and the fact that he makes all loads of people angry over patterns of racism adds to the appeal, I like Frankie Boyle's description of him as a cultural tumour rather apt here - it's like you combine cars with /b/ and throw it onto prime TV to enrage all the cultured socialites whilst giving all the masses the biting satire they need to laugh at their own misery. Hilarious, quality anticulture
It helps to have a walking middle finger waving in front of people who just want to be offended too, keeps them distracted and proves they managed to give less shits than me before voicing their opinions
The question is irrelevant because it's 1 year on and I didn't expect a debate, expecting more commentary on the New Top Gear but evidently no one here watched it LOL
Alright alright, I've said my bit. TBH I didn't watch it that regularly before but enjoyed it when I would happen across it. And I've read the trainwreck that is following, now. I didn't know they'd casted "Joey", I think most Americans could have told you that was a pretty...questionable casting decision. That's the kind of guy that values their life enough to use stunt drivers, which is what made the previous cast so real. More than a couple times I thought they'd seriously hurt themselves, and I've done dumb things in cars enough in my life to at least appreciate that. I couldn't see Matt LeBlanc doing that believably expect under very fussy circumstances.
The way I reckon it, after the whole thing blew up there is no one they could've gotten to fill the gap. They tried a whole rebranding thing with diversity and a total lack of moistness to get a new demographic but there's no overlap there, so obviously it's gonna die. I'm sure Beeb were hopeful that the show could still live on, but I don't think they were exactly expectant of any results. If you look at the guests they try to get on, there was that thing with canceling and all because few really wanted to go on new gear... Perhaps there were other, better hosts who just didn't want to touch the poison potato of dead people walking.
I just love the symbolism of it all too, cheeky Evans promises not to follow the boots of naughty schoolboy Clarkson - but the stress and expectation of results, the controversies surrounding him offending people, the actual performance itself - in the end he walks the boots of Clarkson, only without a sense of humour. I'm not too caught up on this derail since it's clearly more fruitful a discussion than the original topic, which pretty much concluded after 3 posts.
I'm honestly surprised the celebrities don't crack more than Humpty Dumpty in a wall factory, with all them eyes on them looking for drugs, fracas and lewdness. What worries me about Evans is that he's getting really nervous about maintaining nothing's wrong. I hope at least Joey from Friends makes it out alive lol, he actually added entertainment to the show. Only criticism you can really have on him is that it's clear he's "acting," you know - like he's a character and not just being himself, reading from a script, but that would be workable if they wanted to make the show seem more scripted and finished
And quite topically as this is probably going to be the last time anyone mentions the new show, quite tellingly the new gear lived in the shadow of the old gear's rotting corpse. Tried passing off jokes and all, they should've left it behind and just moved on. Their hosts not driving is a bit much, I can pass off their lack of maintenance skills as it's not like they can't learn over time, but they needed to establish their scripted identity fast
Cos we're being symbolic and all about Evans continuing the cycle of fracas, gonna be symbolic and all with the show - the Viper vs Vette, two fast cars racing with guns and missiles on top... Nothing fires, nothing happens. Why not just take off the guns and missiles if they're not doing anything and have the hosts and cars stand on their own feet? Producer's working hard in the wrong direction
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