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[AlStar]

Fun fact - the spectral undead are apparently too oblivious to realize that they shouldn't be able to throw their javelins or fire their bows underwater.

This doesn't help me when I'm also too oblivious to tell them to do this, but luckily a quick trip on land, followed by going back underwater without changing their combat settings fixed that.   

Edit: Wow, kudos to you Fomoria - if I'd seen that start location, I would've taken the offered reset. I suppose it's not quite as bad since you can enter the water, but it's certainly not a good place to be (especially since it's near me.)

[ThtblovesDF]

So as the score graphs can tell you, the naked men had a bad time. A real bad time.

What I considered a normal province with indis had a mage spamming fire elementals and another mage spamming Blade Wind. Blade wind vs naked dudes. And he had like 12 gems. Fuck me.

Also I reallly hope I'm not close to Niefelheim, that Giant-train is going fast.

[chaoticag]

Well, more worried about Therodos since besides expanding fast, they're a domkill nation. That's a lot of land that would get otherwise blighted.

Also, should we consider a restart? Formoria seems kinda screwed province wise and has not gotten any lands so far as I know.

[ThtblovesDF]

It has been considered and is still a option if any affected party wants to. He also took his 2end province this turn, so that hopefully provides more options. Anyway, I send what gold I could spare to Fomoria this turn.
I just now noticed that we have "The Iron Throne" in the game, how flavorfull.

Vanheim already looks scary:

Best Research
2 in income
2 in provinces

[Nesah]

Yeah, my starting position is like worst I ever had in dom4, but losing is !FUN!

[chaoticag]

These turns are coming in blindingly fast compared to last time. This is nice, I can get used to this.

[Karlito]

Vanheim already looks scary:

Best Research
2 in income
2 in provinces

Bah, might as well just point out that I got lucky and recruited the Sage turn 1, or that I loaded up on order scales to pay for my expensive-as-helheim commanders.

[chaoticag]

And Saurumatia is acting super balsy. I'm going to go grab that province back now. Please step aside.

[AlStar]

Man, of all the luck - send some heavy cavalry with a mounted commander to take out some slingers - should be an easy win, right?

Not if the very first volley of rocks manages to brain the commander, causing him to fail his morale check, it isn't!

To add insult to injury, a second rock managed to hit him as he was fleeing, getting a critical hit and killing the poor bastard.

[chaoticag]

I think my favorite route I ever had was in my niefelheim test game. My commander got hit by an arrow that dealt minimum if any damage and routed. Despite having an army that would wipe the floor with the opposing side.

[ThtblovesDF]

So Theodoros has me surrounded on 2 sites (+1 is water)... this isn't scary at all and its not like I won't end up with a bunch of dead provinces even if everything goes perfectly...

Also, guess Saurumatia ain't need no friends, but pissing on the leg of early game Niefelheim?

[AlStar]

Looks like I've had control of an indie scout province for the last, like, 5 turns. 

That could've been useful to discover... like 5 turns ago. 

So Theodoros has me surrounded on 2 sites (+1 is water)... this isn't scary at all and its not like I won't end up with a bunch of dead provinces even if everything goes perfectly...

Bah, the dead make perfectly fine neighbors.

I'm honestly more worried that you'll manage to pull off the boarpocalypse I managed last time I played Marverni.

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[Shadowlord]

My understanding is that those don't work anywhere near as well against giants. Naturally, I don't have any giants - but other folks in this round do.

[Jilladilla]

Great Boars are only size 3, they can't trample anything bigger than a human. They definitely have an edge over naked pale ones though! But then again, those guys are sorta helpless at anything other than tearing down walls...

[AlStar]

My understanding is that those don't work anywhere near as well against giants. Naturally, I don't have any giants - but other folks in this round do.

Honestly depends on how many giants there are - while the boars certainly can't trample giants, if you've got 10x as many of them as troops the giant player manages to field, they manage to gore them to death pretty well.