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[AlStar]

I'm getting a 'Can't find map image: The_Old_Kingdom.tga' error. Is it because I've mistakenly downloaded version 1.1 of the old kingdom? If so: Where do I find the non 1.1 version? If not: What've I done wrong? Both map files are in C:\Users\Jonathan\AppData\Roaming\Dominions4\maps, which has worked for me in the past with other games.

I just renamed the .tga file - I figure it's unlikely that anything crazy has happened between v1.0 and v1.1.

[Shadowlord]

If the server was started with the 1.0 version, that means we likely all have the wrong map, which is Bad - assuming more than just the art changed.

[Karlito]

Yeah, I just renamed the .tga as well. I don't even think we use the .map file to load the PBEM savefile.

EDIT: Here's what the moddb says: "Updated to version 1.1 Made some provinces no start, added two more caves and touched up some map art." The Big Cave is a Throne of Ascension, so Agartha got sort of shafted with an above ground capital. We should consider restarting with the right map, I think.

Anyway, anyone in the peanut gallery watching this thread? We need judges for the Pretender name competition.

Maverni: Sus scrofa, Lady of Corruption, the Hidden One, Friend of the Dead
Sauromatia: Sheezus, Queen of the World, Mistress of Growth, Lady of Verdure, Lady of Silence
Agartha: Cavefriend, the Vessel of Might, the Fortifier, the Mountain Lord
Formoria: Balor, the Hammer of Gaia, Master of the Forest, the Most High, Lord of Poetry and Song
Vanheim: Ragnar Runestone, First Born of Gaia, the Old Old One, Prince of Forgiving
Niefelheim: Blightbringer, Prince of the Eternal Forest, He who is at the Center, Patron of Herbalists
Xibalba: Tora no Kagitsume, the Leeching Darkness, the King at the Crossroads
Therodos: Ddaear Neidr, King of the Rock, Protector of the Holy Mountain

[ThtblovesDF]

I tested both maps from the lama server, you just need to rename the file, both downloads download the same file.

Sorry about that.

Well, just from titles - "Queen of the World" seems pretty niffity.

[Cheeetar]

I have no idea if my starting position is good or bad, so I'm perfectly fine with restarting.

[Karlito]

I really like my start position, so it's a shame. If anyone has a capital province with two or fewer land neighbors (i.e. a province that would be flagged no start in the updated map) we should definitely restart. Otherwise I guess we'll see what Jilladilla has to say about living under the tyranny of the sun.

I tested both maps from the lama server, you just need to rename the file, both downloads download the same file.

Yeah, they both have links to the same moddb page, but the files that are uploaded to the llamaserver are different.

[Cheeetar]

I seem to have two land neighbours, or at least, there are two land provinces I can move into with my land army, and another land province that's over a river I can't get to.

[Karlito]

Well you can still collect resources from that third one (eventually), even if moving directly to it is difficult.

[Shadowlord]

It's probably fine as long as the tga isn't misleading.

Well, except for the bad starts. The 1.1 map has nostart/start provinces marked?

Having less connections is kind of crippling to resource income.

P.S. There's an un-start game option in the admin menu, so you might be able to change the map to the 1.1 version if you find it in the list of maps. (The last time I tried, the game I did it on mysteriously disappeared from llamaserver, but that's no worse than the only other way of fixing it)

[Karlito]

No provinces have been added or removed, so assuming everyone is fine with their start position we should be able to continue without any issues. The only difference will be the two missing cave provinces.

[Shadowlord]

... doesn't that make it Really Obvious where Agartha is?

[Karlito]

No, because right now the one cave province on the map is a Throne and thus not Where Agartha Is.

[Shadowlord]

Haha. Well, that's kind of terrible, because that prevents them from summoning their cave summons unless they go take that throne.

[Karlito]

I think their national summons are tied to the Capital magic sites, not the cave terrain. Mod inspector seems to confirm this. The only thing they're missing out on is the defensiveness provided by the cave darkness.

[Shadowlord]

Oh, EA Agartha doesn't have cave summons?